Many a military person losing track I think beatle. Friends of mine who I deployed with, who also have PTSD, only one of them has actively tried helping himself to get past the symptoms, the rest are nearly dead, one even died and had to be brought back, because his sheer arrogance, male and military pride stop him from talking about what he feels, stops him from asking for help. He has had his heart opened up and bypassed so many times now from heart attacks and other issues, all caused from his PTSD.

Soldiers are the worst asking for help, because our training has made our male pride that much more worse when it comes to asking for self help.

Ranger and Beatle, I congratulate you both for coming here and posting, because I know a lot of vets who only read here, email me and the like, who won't actually post here because they don't want people to know they need help. All soldiers who are here and posting, looking for help, all should give yourselves huge credit for that alone... because you deserve it.

Those who are not tainted by the military mind changes, being civilians, don't suffer this problem even close to soldiers.