Wow, great to see you back Mac. Missed you. Hope you are doing well. Lots of responses as well you know we all have an opinion. Hell, even my hubs posted, shocker! But he is into political debates. Mine are just from the heart, he knows laws inside out. Frustrating having a guy so book smart leaving me in the dust on law and rulings so our ideas our different. But I must say I wonder when he will take our little girl out for her first hunting trip and learn to use. I guess that is my thing, they do not seem like a big deal. You are trained it is a tool. You know to be careful. Until I was an adult I never even had it go through my head to use it on a human. It was for food. My daddy was arrested more than once for poaching, but it was to keep food on the table when I was a kid. He probably got in more trouble for shooting deer than a druggie for packing. Sorry I am a bit lippy this evening. And the anti hunters... It is a major rush to know you made a kill that will feed your family for months. You feel a big pride. Some tried to make this a VAT debate but it was really a non issue in the debate.