That's how Joe is, he volunteered at the Vet Center, helping other Vets for many years, then finally applied for a counselors job there and was approved. I was thinking they might have known each other cuz the Rangers are a pretty close family, they have a reunion once a year meant for all Rangers. Since Joe and Sarge were probably in-country at some time in their tours at the same time, they most likely met and chatted at some point in time. I wasn't attacking you or Sarge or your poems. I'm sorry if you thought I meant you copied your poems out of a book or anything similar, I didn't mean that. I know those are your poems. People who write poems sorta gravitate toward other people who write poems about similar subjects. I thought you might have read Joe's or maybe he read yours at some time. Our world really isn't that big, we do run across each other just doing life.