Anthony I never thought I would say so to anyone, however you are most fortunate to not believe in God. It does rather get in the way when one is grieving. I cannot believe Brian's death is God's will, and I also find the belief "God allowed Brian to die" quite offensive. Some hold the belief that God is present however does not interfere in the affairs of the world, however that leaves me unsatisfied as well. Really Brian's death has shaken our faith, Jim's and mine, to the very core. After the priest refused to bury Brian citing suicide, Jim has not wanted to return to church at all, though he does attend for my sake. We drive an extra 45 minutes each Sunday to attend mass in another town, as Jim refuses to see that priest. Sometimes I think we are rather silly for attending at all now, however I have attended my whole life so it is habitual. It does make me rather angry, and is rather ironic, to know that I have devoted myself to the Church my whole life as an active and contributing member, yet in my darkest hour the Church failed me.

I believe in destiny as well, and I am delighted to see how your life has turned out Anthony. I do see Evie's points though as well. Actually quite similar, yours and Evie's points. Perhaps just a different way of saying basically the same thing. Evie, what I like about the destiny belief is that it gives me hope. I can look at Anthony and others who have healed and I feel hopeful, for you especially. Though it is a choice too obviously, that is quite correct. I hope you continue making the right choices Evie.

In any event, this has been quite helpful so thank you. The poll has made things much clearer. Not any easier to accept, however clearer.