Well, anthony . . . I'm not defending anything like I said. I offered those links as reference, as I said. And I did it with full knowledge that the data was dated by a couple years which is how long it takes to collect it. Now mate, you are sounding like you are defending your position. I don't herar nothing discussion the information there. That would be nice. It seems to me you just want to knock the opposition down with hundreds of word, and critiques of selected quotes. I am sourly disappointed in ya mate. Sourly disappointed.

Actually, I don't really care enough to talk about the real issues here which go beyond most peoples understanding like economics of international investments, balance of trade and the like, or strategic concepts on this site . . . but in 10 or 20 years if China is really a super power and the US declines as claimed, and retreats into isolationism which is its habit . . . I want to know who's going to step up the the plate to re-assure Japan, Taiwan, S. Korea. The EU, Australia, Japan, Russia?