Thanks Anthony, Piglet,. Tried to start up a few conversations haven a wee bit of trouble in that department ive always been the loner and a hermit I have spent the last fifteen or so years working in the outback of SA,NT,OLD mainly by myself with the attitude that as soon as somebody said hello or wanted to start up a conversation id had enough of them. I could go for weeks without talking then get the shits up real quick when i came back into the city,taffic lights,cars,people just the rat race was enough to make me want to turn around so its ben a massive turn around for me and my wife (jods) christ she has to sleep :smoking:and see me every day now that is one of lifes challenges im still trying to come to terms with (lucky i like her) so im slowly coming around. So with little steps im slowly inching forward a friend once told me*** ( Point your head in the right direction and your arse will follow )***:moon: