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Portabella
28-08-2007, 01:34 PM
Do you believe in psychics? see'rs? just curious what people believe in and what they feel is hogwarsh.....

Jim
28-08-2007, 02:09 PM
Myself, not generally. Most are charlatans. Eager to take advantage, make a profit on gullible and desperate individuals. However. Reckon occasionally there is a genuine one. Some people, women especially, seem to have a gift for foresight that goes beyond "women's intuition". My mother was one of them. And. A woman claiming to be a spiritualist is one of our neighbours. Not certain she has any true abilities. However. She is a genuine good person with a good heart. Believes in the spirit world and does not charge money for her services.

Jim.

hodge
28-08-2007, 02:27 PM
I don't know about psychics in general; as a rule I'm suspicious. Yet, I've had numerous experiences in my life that tell me that the human mind is capable of knowing more than we might generally expect. Whether it's because the mind can pick up on very subtle cues or whether it's something beyond that, I don't know. What I do know is that foresight does happen sometimes, because it's happened to me. Okay, I probably shouldn't have responded to this, cause I know I sound like a total loon! But it's true.

anthony
28-08-2007, 03:40 PM
I believe that 99.9% of all physics are scammers, honest or not beliefs, scammers at the end of the day. The other 0.01% I believe actually do have a true ability to see, hear and notice things beyond this world. That means one has to believe there is more than what we see... and that I do. I do not believe we are the only one's in the entire universe, I do not believe we just die and that is it; because there is simply far to many unanswered questions relating to spiritual energy. It is scientifically studied that the body is made up off energy, and its not the energy that dies but instead our body that can no longer harness it. Something like that I think from memory.

Well, that is about the most I believe thus far from my own judgement. John Edwards for example can do things that just can not be answered logically, he knows things about people that could not be randomly guessed. Allison DuBois is another that knows things that could not possibly be known beyond this world, without outside help beyond intuition. These are two that are prominent within the world, tested and have not failed.

She Cat
28-08-2007, 07:46 PM
Ok, so I think this thread could go on and on.....I think that women have a internal gut feeling about things that men don't feel. I think it's just nature. Woman in general tend to be more in tune than men are.

I don't myself believe that for the most part believe in fortune tellers or physics....But Anthony is so right about John Edwards.....That guy is amazing.....I would sit down with him and probably have the pants scared right off of me. But it would be interesting.....

Wen

Marlene
28-08-2007, 08:01 PM
It is scientifically studied that the body is made up off energy, and its not the energy that dies but instead our body that can no longer harness it.

1st Law of Thermodynamics: Energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be transfered to another form.

I'm with everyone about not trusting 99% of folks who claim to have 'the sight'. People who truly have a gift don't go around promoting it. They usually just want to be left alone to live their lives. Money tends to be the dividing line. Run from the ones who say they know, but need to be paid first.

Damiea
28-08-2007, 10:35 PM
I do believe that all people have something they use to go through life that just helps them "feel" people and situations and places or whatever. Like how sometimes you just "feel" you don't like this person.. or this place.. or whatever. Or how you "feel" like you have known a person all your life when you have just met them! We do all have energy inside us.. its how our bodys work! so I can believe that this energy reacts to other people and places or anything in ways we will never be able to sientifically understand!

Kind of like how you all can understand what I'm saying when my spelling is so awfull!! ROFL!

becvan
28-08-2007, 11:27 PM
Well part of the 99% of scammers happens to be my mother. She charges $30.00 for a tarot reading and sees angels that talk to her.

Yeahhhh, right.


Anyways, you'd have to be something awful ****ing special for me to believe it. I do believe there is more than we can see, but I think 99.99% of the population is completely full of shit about it too.

bec

2quilt
29-08-2007, 04:41 AM
Psychics, tarot car readers, and those people are simply there for entertainment. They do it for money, so please don't go to them entrusting them with your savings.

My husband likes to apply that "energy can't be created or destroyed" physics law to his favorite dairy products that have been in the fridge a liiiiittle too long past the expiration date: the energy in milk just 'changes form' to become something... else......the energy in that yogurt container just became a science project. Which he still consumes.
There's no accounting for men.

Marilyn_S
31-08-2007, 02:19 AM
Since you can buy Tarot cards in the local book store I consider it to be sort of like a game. Kind of like D&D. If someone really did have special powers they would probably be smart enough not to capitolize on them but use them for real good. I agree with the others about the 99% but I don't think they are intensional scammers, just silly people who think they have special powers because they bought a pack of cards at a local book store. I got a set of them myself! lol!

She Cat
31-08-2007, 07:49 AM
Bec,

I used to see angles too......When I was drinking, with my head in the toilet, praying to god, to just take me......

ptsd_cracker
01-09-2007, 05:55 PM
I believe there are some things are possible but I would never pay for psychic services. I don't know if it's just really good intuition but something weird happens to me on occasion whether in a dream, etc which somewhat accurately predicts future coming events in my life. When I have said that is too unreal and ignored it is usually when they come true. I also have had absolutely no control over my predicts, in other words cant pick lucky numbers for the lotto. I had reoccurring dreams at age 12 that I would die suddenly in my 30's and I have had 3 near death experiences from age 30 on and I'm only 36.....3 1/2 years to know whether or not it actually comes true.

Anyways I think that there has to be a lot more investigation before I can conclude that it's possible or not.

veiled
01-09-2007, 06:51 PM
I am shocked people buy John Edwards! But that is me. I really do not believe in it. I do believe in some experience though, just not ones that can be called on at will. I have had experiences but still can't entirely swallow it. I chalk mine up to being the twin brain. I knew and felt my sister's pain. My mom said I did it since a babe. Sis would get hurt and I was the one who had to be consoled. Still happens. My mom swears something of the sort goes on and I am ignoring a gift. Sorry I try hard to push delusions out of my head LOL.

I have freaked out and panicked to my husband something was wrong and something was "with us" before. I thought I lost it good that day. I would not let my daughter go yelling "you cannot take this one and leave". I was called a few hours after it happened that one of my grandfathers had died at the same time. Everyone else had bigger goosebumps than I.

I had the same sensations (why I freaked out the last time over grand dad) before when I lost my last child in miscarriage. My daughter was still an infant and no clue I was pregnant. When it happened I "knew" I was pregnant then. I took pregnancy test the same day. They were positive. My midwife was in shock with me it happened. I had such a bad presence feeling.

Ever since the horrible abortion I did musical toys would go off, always baby toys. I could hear Mozart playing... It was a lullaby I hummed to the other kids. While no one else heard the plain as day music many experienced toys always playing so I knew that was not me. Strangely enough after many prayers and moving it ceased entirely. It just stopped one day. It is one thing if things I only heard did, but the toys always going off stopped. That one everyone in my home went through. Things from balls on the play mat you spin for noise to the "engine" revving on the toy tractor. I still have many of the same toys here.

Portabella
02-09-2007, 05:43 AM
I have been dealing with something wierd that happened in my life in the past couple of weeks, so for those of you that I communicate with privately, sorry for not corresponding . I have been sooooo busy. I never believed in psychics or the like, but I personally had a sort of revelation and saw something/someone in a half sleep state. No I am not hallucinating and no I am not psychotic. Now I am in the middle of something that is very interesting and I hope to share and not be looked down on when this is over. I just wanted to share as much as I can right now. Which obviously is not a whole heck of a lot....lol. Be safe....T.

hodge
02-09-2007, 03:42 PM
Hey, Portabella, I'm very interested in hearing what you have to share. I'm not going to judge you for sure, I've had enough of my own weird experiences. Just pm me if you want to know more :)

Nicolette
02-09-2007, 09:18 PM
I know I'm a bit late but would like to comment.

While I believe there are "scammers" I have experienced some weird things which makes me believe that there is a "sixth sense" although the majority of us cannot or do not know how to utilise it.

One night I had a dream where my girlfriend came to me and stood in front of me, saying nothing, but her facial expression told me something was wrong and that she had 'given up' on something. I was concerned and rang her first thing in the morning (she lives on the other side of Australia so I had not seen her in months) to find up that her marriage was over and it had only ended that night - something she had been fighting to keep together for quite some time and she said she had finally 'given up' and couldn't do it anymore.

The other weird thing was my grandmother had problems with her veins in her legs and my mother called me at night telling me that grandma would be having a leg operation the following day. At this time I lived 4 hours (drive) away from where my grandmother lived. My brother lived 1/2 an hour away from me and I called him after getting off the phone saying that we should go and see grandma if we wanted to see her alive.......something inside me just told me she wouldn't make it. My brother called my mother saying we were coming up and she called me telling me to stop upsetting my brother and being silly. Well, my brother and I still went, travelling through the night as we decided it would be too late to leave in the morning. We arrived at 5am in the morning and at 7am got a call from the hospital to get there as grandma wasn't going to make it! Amazing and really weird!

nobody
03-09-2007, 05:59 PM
there is energy and there is pattern. thats all there is, truly.

Seeking_Nirvana
30-09-2007, 01:26 AM
Ok, this is not fair. I'm psychic and I don't charge a dime for the help I've given to others.

I'm not that good at it because I only began strengthening my abilities two years ago. I've had the ability to see into the future and communicate with spirits while dreaming since I was a teenager. I thought I was crazy so I blocked out the prophetic dreams, feelings, and visions I would see.

After I the grim reaper knocked at my door one night I thought "I" was dying. Finally, when I calmed down I tried to figure out what was going on and why I was feeling death all around me. I was worried about my son, and then my family. Once I checked out that everyone was OK, I remembered the last time I seen my ex he was looking pretty ill so I called his work and he hadn't been there for a week. I called the hospital and he was on the oncology ward. I went to see him the next day. He died 4 days later. I feel this was no scam, I had no way of knowing he was going to die because he looked sick the last time I seen him.

When I felt death I didn't know who it was that was going to die, and that part I had to figure out on my own because my abilities were not developed at that time. My abilities along with every one else that have them, have to practice and learn to get it right. It takes time and practice.

Some times I see this as a gift and other times I see it as a curse. Either way the experiences I've had can not be explained by anyone or myself. All I know is that I see and know things that come to be reality.

I'm a member of dream groups and medium/psychic groups and some of the people I've talked to knew things about me they had no way of knowing. I went there to ask for help in strengthening my abilities and have learned a great deal from other psychics, and no one has ever asked me for money.

Judging people who are different is unfair and hurtful. Just because I can't see the wind doesn't mean I can't feel it, and it doesn't exist.

Tammy

becvan
30-09-2007, 04:26 AM
Actually I see nothing unfair about it. We have all agreed that there is a small percentage that do not rip off or scam others. We have also stated that the majority do rip off and scam others.

So you fit into the small percentage. That is unfair? Also no one has made personal judgments against you. If I am skeptical and don't believe in it.. that is my choice, my beliefs as it is for every one on this forum. This has nothing to do with you personally. I am not judging you, nor is anyone else.

If you feel that this thread is judging you, is hurtful and unfair, I would recommend you look towards your sense of self and self-esteem on this subject. You see to be low on self-confidence where your spiritual beliefs stand. No matter what you believe, it is not wrong.

bec

rob4444
01-10-2007, 09:24 AM
i wouldnt call myself a psychic..but i seem to be able to predict earthquakes???....a thought will pop into my head that an earthquake is about to happen...dont know where..but 3 days later they show it on the news...i have fortold the last 5 straight includind the big tsunami,and despite the risk of humiliation,i tell about 10 people each time,trying to get someone to believe....there is now a growing number of "sane" people,incl. therapists, that believe i have some type of "gift"?.....i also contacted police over a vivid dream in which a girl was murdered and dumped down a rocky crevice...a girl went missing that very same day in the same town..her car was found 221metres from the map co-ordinates i gave police(6 hrs away)...they laugh and tell me im mad..shes still there,in my recurring vision shes still in the crevice,looking up at the sky with her hand above her head...am i mad...i was contacted by a leading "phone psycic"..said she was "channeled" to me????....says the girls spirit is using me as a medium?????......anyway against advice im going to travel there and find her...ill prob be arrested..but i was in bed with the missus 6hrs away when it happened and my wife vividly remmembers me waking up crying,telling her of the "dream"....but hey im nucking futs..who's gonna believe me??????

erryyn
01-10-2007, 09:53 PM
Well part of the 99% of scammers happens to be my mother. She charges $30.00 for a tarot reading and sees angels that talk to her.

Yeahhhh, right.


Anyways, you'd have to be something awful ****ing special for me to believe it. I do believe there is more than we can see, but I think 99.99% of the population is completely full of shit about it too.

bec

Your post made me smile.

But, yeah, I pretty much have to agree with the board here. The very rare person may have some ability that may be labeled psychic but, for the most part, I tend to view claims with suspicion and, at times, derision. I met a fellow once who told me some stuff that blew my mind but I'd say it's an extreme rarity.

becvan
02-10-2007, 12:23 AM
Nice to see you again Erryyn.

Glad it made you smile!

bec

Seeking_Nirvana
03-10-2007, 05:50 AM
I wasn't saying it is unfair to "me" because I don't care what people think about me anymore. However, I know some people who do get upset over this, and I feel bad for them when other people go around claiming they don't believe in psychics and they are scammers, but yet these so called disbelievers can give some real descriptive examples of unexplained things that happened to them.

Oh, but wait, I will make an exception for John Edwards! One minute it's, "I don't believe" and the next minute "Well there was this one time I had an experience....."

I feel that there is a lot of contradiction with what one is feeling and refusing to believe within themselves out of fear of finding out the truth. If one was to do more accurate research, one would find out that there are just as many people that don't charge as the ones that do. I've done research.

Also, I feel it would be unfair if some one came onto this forum and said, "I don't believe in PTSD because I was in a car wreck or raped, and never had any symptoms of it". Now I believe this would be hurtful to alot of people here, and some heads would turn. I bet the post would be deleted immediately even though that person has the right to their own opinion. I would make the same comment on that, just like I did on this issue.

I don't have much of a problem with my self-confidence anymore, and I think maybe you were projecting, by misreading what I wrote. It wasn't just about "me", it was about everyone as a whole. I was just giving example of what has happened to me while trying to defend those who are not strong enough to take the criticism.

rob your not nuts, I believe you.

I'm not trying to argue, just make a point bec.

Tammy

becvan
03-10-2007, 05:56 AM
I am not everyone, which is what you just lumped me into and anyone else you feel disagrees with you. I did not say I don't believe either. I said I believe 99% of them are scammers. Also you have NO right to tell me what I can or can't believe in and then say well it's just because you fear it, nor I to you. You have no idea why I believe what I do and frankly it's none of your business.

Stating what my beliefs are, is not criticism. I have a right to them just as much as the next person whether it fits into your beliefs or not. If someone didn't believe in PTSD, then why would they be here? It's not our problem if they believed it or not. Quit attempting to make your beliefs my problem or anyone else's.

We have a right to disagree here.

I think you should really look towards yourself here and admit to what is really bothering you.

Single me out again on this.. and I will be much more blunt.

Seeking_Nirvana
03-10-2007, 06:28 AM
I don't fear bluntness, I was trying to make a point. But again, I was unable to do it effectively. So there is no need for another attempt.

I was singled out first, and then again. I realize I won't accomplish anything but negativity here, and I accept this :-) So I have nothing further to say about the psychics, or lack there of.

I've looked at myself, and I know what bothers me, and I feel there is no need for me to continue looking at this point. But, thanks for telling me what "I should do". I will take it into consideration.

Peace
Tammy

becvan
03-10-2007, 09:18 PM
Tammy,

I did use should. My bad. I am sorry. Please take me with a grain of salt right now. I've been having a few very bad weeks. Not that it's an excuse.. I'm just usually not soo.. blind? Oh hell just :poke:.

bec