Afraid to Speak Mind about God

[hollyberry]

I don't know if I should give any advice. The only advice I could give, I'm afraid too because other members might not believe as I do and if they posted, they disagreed with me then that would be a trigger for me, and don't need that right now. I'm at peace right now and I need to keep this feeling I'm having for as long as I can. my only advice you can figure out if you read my dairy. Hope its not a trigger for you. Holly

[veiled]

Holly, not trying to sound rude, but if you have something to say say it. The forum is not meant to be used as a scavenger hunt for advice. This person should not have to go look for your diary and read it to have an idea what you are talking about. If you want to say you think prayer or faith would help just blurt it out. No one has to agree, that is the beauty of this site, you get a lot of differing opinions and people *take what they need and leave the rest*.

[hollyberry]

because its a trigger for me when people dom't agree with me and I don't need to be triggered.

[veiled]

Well, this thread is not about you either. It is about and for Metis. If you have advice give it. Again this forum is not meant to be used as a scavenger hunt.

[hollyberry]

I found peace today through talking with God

[becvan]

I'm glad you have peace with God Holly.

However, if another thread is hijacked by you, I will delete those posts instead of moving them as I did here. Please stay on topic in others threads.

bec

[veiled]

Thanks for the clean up bec.

[goingonhope]

that would be a trigger for me, and don't need that right now. I'm at peace right now and I need to keep this feeling I'm having for as long as I can.

Hollyberry, I'll share with you the recommendation that my doctor and therapist gave me 2 wks. ago following my neurobiol. testing. I was told, in no uncertain terms, that I needed and must refrain from coming on this forum ever again and for permanent.

Naturally I disagreed with such an extreme and the presumptions that must have gone into deciding this. So, I had asked her, out of my own curiosity, Why?.

She said to me, 'People that have suffered so much trauma, will often find it difficult, if not impossible, to modulate their feelings when participating in such forums.'

My point in telling you is: Just as has been kindly posted in a sticky at the top of this forum: Reading Forum Increases Symptoms. So is it true that posting, participating and interacting within the forum will, with much likelihood, surface our fears, anxieties and symptoms too.

So holly berry, if peace is what you desire, like right now, this forum then IMHO, is not the place for you to find it right away or maintain it either.

Peace and resolve is not just dropped in our laps for us, we work seriously hard at our resolve.

I too believe in God, (though I do struggle w/ my relig. relationship w/ him,) I believe that if we do our share and openly accept God’s graces along with maintaining our end and share of effort and work, perhaps even giving back when we can, that these two—Peace and Resolve do come together for us.

Those days when you’re in peace with God, holly berry, if you want to share your experience and feelings and speak your mind here, please do so. Nobody is stopping you, nor wishes to squelch you beliefs.

We can all mostly get along, bc we do do our best to respect one another and appreciate the same sort of respect in return. However, us doing cartwheels or kissing each others arse to appease others, and no matter how next to impossible and detrimental catering to another PTSD’s demands remains; This is not a viable solution. It simply doesn’t work to help. And, there is no win/win in any of this attitude or action.

There really is no intended judgement being passed here. I’m not saying that any of your impulses over the last few days are good nor bad, what I’m suggesting however is that they did occur and do effect others. And, IMHO, they're not going to work to benefit you, if continued.

So back on discussion of trying to control people, places and triggers.

Where and when do your triggers come? What path do they follow? Where do they take you personally? How much control or manageability do you yet to have over them?

If you really, really don't want to be triggered unless on your terms, I don’t know what more to say, bc this forum, though it supports and helps guide and prompt us to our continued positive actions and will, to meet our own many daily ‘real-life’ needs, it also continues to pull and pull and pull at and up even the very last bit of residue left from our unresolved trauma(s).

And, IMHO, none of the pain feels good, but the rewards do and I trust will be lasting.

Take Much Good Care, hollyberry.


Hope

[anthony]

I don't believe in God... or the Devil for that matter. Does that make me wrong! The point of the forum Holly is for you to just post what is on your mind, and you must accept that by posting here you open yourself up to others responding. Some may support you, some may have their own opinions which differ from yours, regardless though; everyone will respect anothers opinion without attack. You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else here. So voice your opinion and be open for criticism, support, encouragement and even maybe negativity. That is the power of a forum, and tip toeing around you or any other member is not exactly going to help your self esteem improve, except merely enable your current poor self esteem. We do not enable here, we push with support.

[cactus_jack]

I suppose I'm going to be evil one here.
Holly according to your profile, you live in Delaware. Last I knew Delaware is still part of the United States. That being the case, since I know for a fact that Delaware has not seceeded from the United States, you are still entitle to you Freedom of Religion as guaranteed by the United States Constitution. Along with that there are multiple federal and even state laws that protect that very right. And THAT is, Holly, the exact reason why I enlisted in the United States Army. So that people CAN retain not just the freedom of speech, but the freedom of religion. Both are covered by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

I am sorry that people disagreeing with you is a trigger. I hope you can find a way around that. Because though I may or may not not agree with your idea on religion, I enjoy seeing people like yourself exercising the same rights I served to protect.

You'll be in my prayers that you can resolve this trigger issue, Holly.

[anthony]

Bingo CJ....

[hollyberry]

I believe that in the life I had before my father died. If someone did not validate your feelings then they were wrong and you weren't aloud to have them. If you cryed and didn't have a reason to cry, you got a reason to cry. If you had an opinion and someone doesn't agree with it then you couldn't have that opinion. And if the way you believed was not believed by someone then the way you believed was wrong.....I have no idea who the someone was....my dad, my mom, I had 3 older brother and 2 older sister. Can't remember any relationships I had with any of them before the age of 13. I have spent last 30 years trying to defend how I feel so I have right to feel that way. I have spent the last 30 years making sure the way I believed was the way my family believed so I could have my beliefs. I have spent the last 30 years trying to make sure noone gets made at me so they won't leave me.

[madjon]

you have a tough problem, even the wisest and most gracious of people in the world cannot please all of the people all of the time nor agree with all of the people all of the time,
all i can say is no ones going to get mad or leave if you dont know the answer to something and no one minds if you believe in god or have your own beliefs, everybody is different, if you want to talk of god and someone thinks something different i dont think anyone here will get mad, we may talk on our different thoughts but no one will deny you the right to feel how you feel or believe what you believe on such things because they think differently, no ones going to get mad or leave because you disagree with them or think something different, people may talk of things and discuss them but they are discussing things and looking at them trying to find a way forward, theres no im right your wrong,theres no i believe this so you must as well, just talk discussion and looking at things, sometimes in life people hold very different and sometimes conflicting ideas, it doesnt mean they would make the other person change or reject them, it just means you have different ideas on something, agree to disagree and move on, i have friends who are very close and we often have things we very much have different views on and disagree sometimes quite strongly on, respecting someone even when they have opinions which disagree with yours is a good thing, not sure ive said anything useful, but if you feel you want to talk about something then do, but do not try to avoid things because you think people wont agree or may think differently ,be who you are and talk is all there is, i hope things go well with you,

[EmoxxKid]

Holly,

You can say whatever you would like to say, indeed.
The flip side is that everyone else can so the same thing.....This is a PTSD website.....
Most people who post are in the same boat...hurt...lost...looking for answers and someone to help them...or even someone they can help.

I myself...have refrained more than once on using my thoughts on god in a post ....It's not that it is not right...it's that you catch more flies with honey. If you really want to help people...than you appeal to everyone in order to be heard by a mass sometimes.

See Holly, I know and belive in god....but...not all do and some have lost the way.

Please keep in mind you are talking to people who have been seen events that shake their world to their very foundation and beliefs.

All I am saying....is it might be a touching subject, perhaps even a trigger to them?

However, as stated above.....these pretty much are your rights.

In end, Please do NOT be afraid to speak your mind about god.....But....take responsibility for your triggers. While you cannot help them and you may indeed have no control of them...you have to understand .....if your placing yourself on this website speaking about something that is already a rocky topic....it might get a little off tha chain......

Protect yourself with the understand that your faith is all yours....not one person on this earth can take that away....no matter what they do. So....speak your mind....or don't...either way...It's on you...not us.



Respectfully,

Geneva

[txmomof3]

I suppose I'm going to be evil one here.
Holly according to your profile, you live in Delaware. Last I knew Delaware is still part of the United States. That being the case, since I know for a fact that Delaware has not seceeded from the United States, you are still entitle to you Freedom of Religion as guaranteed by the United States Constitution. Along with that there are multiple federal and even state laws that protect that very right. And THAT is, Holly, the exact reason why I enlisted in the United States Army. So that people CAN retain not just the freedom of speech, but the freedom of religion. Both are covered by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

I am sorry that people disagreeing with you is a trigger. I hope you can find a way around that. Because though I may or may not not agree with your idea on religion, I enjoy seeing people like yourself exercising the same rights I served to protect.

You'll be in my prayers that you can resolve this trigger issue, Holly.


First of all, CJ you are not the evil one for saying this:smile: I totally agree with you.

Holly, if your faith is helping you get through this difficult time....hold on to it tight. Look at how many different books, articles, and websites there are on PTSD and how to work through it. I am sure that there are widely differing opinions on these works, but people have to use what works for them.

We all have PTSD...we are all going to be triggered by something at some point. I am praying that this becomes less of a trigger for you .

[hollyberry]

thanks for the support guys...its really coming at good time....got my peace taken again...can't stop crying