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Kells
31-08-2006, 12:52 AM
Hello, everyone :smile:

I am so glad to see there is an actual forum that exists that relates to PTSD, because the mere thought of actually speaking to someone in person (I've done this, quite uncomfortable) makes me highly uncomfortable. I apologize in advance if my post is difficult to follow, as I have extreme difficulty getting/staying asleep at night, especially during the past 2 years.

My name is Kelly, and I was sexually abused by my 3 (now former) stepbrothers periodically from the ages of 9-16. My family sided with the perpetrators, and I either was to shoulder all of the blame, or "part" of the blame. The only way my stepbrothers were ever confronted was a question asked simply "did you do it?" and of course, their answer was always "no" and it was left at that. During school, I dressed in a long "London Fog" winter coat, and avoided other children at all costs to the point where my mother made me join either band or chorus to force me to socialize (the best decision she ever made. Never again have I been able to bring myself to participate in any long term social gatherings of any kind). Outside of school, I lived in my bedroom complete with bells and necklaces around my doorknob, 'booby traps', if you will, leading to my bed, nightlight and a fan (I still cannot sleep without the fan, if I can sleep at night at all) because without it, I could clearly hear someone lurking outside of my bedroom window during the wee hours of the morning-Although, when I woke my mother up, she would assure me no one was there and sent me back to bed.

A couple of years after my mother finally split up with my stepfather, she decided to tell me why. Not long after I was kicked out of the house, my stepfather drilled a hole from my former bedroom closet thru to the bathroom so he could videotape my sister using the shower via the reflection in the large bathroom mirror. She also informed me that another hole had been found between the bedroom and bathroom downstairs at my stepfather's mountain cabin that pointed to the toilet. Finally she believed me about the noises in the middle of the night outside of my bedroom window, because, as it turned out, my stepfather had also been lurking about the house masturbating to the sight of my sister sleeping. Out of fear of retribution, she had destroyed the tape of my sister showering in the presence of my stepfather, and he had quickly spackled the hole in my former bedroom closet. At that point, she left.

No charges were ever filed, because at that time, charges had to be made by the victim, and I had already been threatened that I'd never see my mother or sister again so of course, I never consented to any charges.

During my pregnancy with my eldest son, I briefly participated in group sessions entitled "Daughters and Sons, United". That didn't last long when I realized I was the only one who had family turn against them and, that mine were the only perpetrators that remained free.

During my pregnancy with my youngest daughter in 1999 to February of 2000 when I gave birth, I began noticing severe, strange emotional problems within myself. I immediately went to the Mental Health facility to seek help. After telling about my experiences, I was told then that I have "severe PTSD" and she began to set me up with a Psychiatrist for medications. At that point, I chickened out and never truly sought help like that again for fear of what else they might come up with.

In 2001, I had my first full fledged I-don't-know-what. But I could not help but constantly checking the locks on the doors and windows, checking on the kids, and not being able to get to sleep unless someone was already awake. Even then, I couldn't stay asleep. At one point, I swore I saw someone in my backyard bend over to pick up something and when I bolted to the door to see, no one was there. I don't know what happened in one year, but it seemed I had lost my ever-loving mind. The intensity eventually subsided quite a bit for a long while, only to come back and nail me again and again until 2004.

The episode (I guess that's what to call it) in 2004 hit me like a ton of bricks and lasted the longest of all, and it has never gone fully away even to this day. I find myself endlessly checking locks, windows (if even one of the blinds gets out of place, I cannot help but completely close it. It feels like someone's looking at me through it) fighting for a halfway decent sleep schedule, horrible dreams (often gory), horrible thoughts that come out of nowhere, God forbid my kids get up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom... They have to announce it to me so I don't scare them by my fright. But worst of all... It seems like my heart has grown completely cold much of the time. I don't feel a thing, even things that I should have some feeling for. I have no real life friends, and the few I had, I never felt the urge to keep in touch even if they live close by. I'm afraid to leave the house, even to just drop the kids off at school. I never go anywhere completely alone.

However, amidst all the daily (and nightly) turmoil, I am a firm believer in counting my blessings and living life to its fullest even though I honestly feel incapacitated. I live by laughter and by conjuring as much happiness as I possibly can. I do my best to try to remain fully objective and by always thinking things through. It's a tough life, and I look forward to talking with others who share many of the same difficulties I face day to day.

Farmer
31-08-2006, 01:27 AM
Hello Kells it's nice to meet you:)

Kells
31-08-2006, 01:37 AM
Nice to meet you too :)

anthony
31-08-2006, 01:37 AM
Welcome to the forum kells... glad you found a place your comfortable with, and yes, we do understand what you are going through, as we are/have gone through it ourselves. Glad to have you here, and look forward to chatting with you.

I will come back to this later to discuss...

Kells
31-08-2006, 01:55 AM
I've read through a lot of the forums and postings tonight, I haven't yet fully explored the website here, but from what I have seen so far, this looks like the very thing I (and many others out there I'm certain) have needed for quite a very long time. Thank you Anthony, I look forward to discussing with you later when you find the time. I can tell you're quite busy from your posts I have read tonight. Thank you and all of the other moderators for creating this forum for us. I can tell it's going to be a tremendous help :)

Nam
31-08-2006, 03:45 AM
Welcome Kelly. Your post was heart wrenching to say the least. I'm afraid that there are others here on this forum that have gone through similar childhood tragedies. I being amongst them. I feel for you. I want you to know that with good therapy, guidance, and just pure determination, you can get better. Imagine being able to enjoy your day. Enjoy one of your child's smiles...or even the little things like brushing coffee grime from your teeth (that was me this morning..hehehe)

Do you have anyone other than your children living with you? I feel like you carry such a burden keeping yourself and your children safe. It would be good to share that burden with someone else. Do you have any close friends or relatives that know what is going on? We are here for you and hope that you continue posting about your struggles because sometimes just thinking things through to write them down helps. Then the added plus is getting responses.

Take care,
Nam

piglet
31-08-2006, 03:54 AM
Welcome to the club Kells!

YoungAndAngry
31-08-2006, 06:02 AM
Hi Kells! Welcome to our community!

purdyamos
31-08-2006, 07:52 AM
Hi Kells ! Welcome. I like the spirit you showed at the end of your post. I try to be like that too, but sometimes I end up feeling devestated because the struggle is too much. I hope you can find more hope here.

Kells
31-08-2006, 09:39 AM
Hello Piglet, YoungandAngry, Purdy and Nam :) It's good to meet all of you, and thank you for the welcome :)

Hello, Nam, thank you for the warm welcome as well :)
The answer to your post is yes. I have quite a full house here hehe. My husband (a 100% disabled combat vet-USMC, medically retired- who suffers from bi polar disorder and also has PTSD), and 6 children. Four boys and two girls from the ages of 6 to 14 :) As for close relatives or friends, unfortunately, I don't. My father and his side of the family live several hours away, my mother and sister live in a different state. I rarely communicate with anyone else in my family primarily due to their response to the abuse years ago. I decided that was best because I didn't want my children to be around folks who would blame the molested over the molestor. I want my kids to know that if anyone ever hurt them (God forbid), that they don't have to be afraid of me turning my back on them like they did.

kimG
31-08-2006, 09:54 AM
Welcome Kelly; we're glad you found us! Feel free to rant, rave, scream, cry, yell, and whatever else you need to do. Spill your guts if you need to (if you can); there's nothing that would surprise us here as we've all been through something terrible that caused our PTSD.

As Nam said, there are people here who have gone through similar events in our life. I am one of them. My therapist says I should feel proud to be a survivor, but I haven't found a way for me believe it's okay to be proud (issues from childhood). My story is on one of the threads (as much as I remember); read it if you can find it. If not, PM me and I'll tell you all about it!

Just know you are in good company where we all know the feelings and emotions (or lack thereof) you are going through.

Oh, and I like your name; it's also the name of my first-born daughter!

Kim

anthony
31-08-2006, 10:50 AM
Whoh..... both you and your husband have PTSD!!!

I am curious to this one kelly... is it easier or harder to get along with both of you having PTSD? I have a theory to this, and that is; if both people within a relationship have PTSD, and both people know how to control that PTSD, then their relationship would actually be quite tight compared to a sufferer with non-sufferer. My theory is based loosely around the fact that having a partner who has PTSD, means you have a partner that 100% understands what your feeling, because they are feeling the same things. I think it would work something like a mutual support mechanism.

As you are living this, what is your perception on your relationship and household with both adults having PTSD?

Kells
31-08-2006, 01:00 PM
KimG, thank you for the warm welcome, I will definitely make sure to read your thread as well. It's terrific to meet others who completely understand what this is all about. =)

Anthony,

To answer your question, I would honestly have to say it's both easier and harder and even sometimes humorous in this particular situation. I myself remain nearly completely untreated, where he has had (and continues to have) continual therapy and support through the Veterans Administration-
Thank God for the Veterans Administration, without them and the wealth of information they provided my husband, I would certainly be convinced I have lost my mind-

We absolutely do understand where each other's coming from, so in that aspect it makes it easier.

What makes it harder is, that although we both suffer from PTSD, it comes from two very diferent sources. Where his combat zone was overseas in a foreign land, my "combat zone" if you will, comes from within the home.

So, if he feels out of control of the goings on within the family, he reacts as a military man would in a combat zone- "If they don't follow orders, people could die". And of course, my reaction to what I percieve as an attempt to back me into a corner, I react with the 'fight' portion of the 'flight or fight' and a huge argument ensues as I impulsively feel the need to free myself.

What also makes it harder is just the fact that he has been and continues to go through treatment, and I, for the most part, have not except for the information the VA has provided Sam with throughout the years. Although he does understand why I behave and react the way I do, it is very frustrating to have to endure once again what he has already been through himself.

My biggest question that remains for me is... What will come of the children? How will they turn out having grown up in a family where both parents suffer from PTSD? That is the biggest fear of mine above all else. I have had many discussions with my children about this and have explained what we do, and why we do it in an effort to help them understand, but the fear still remains about their outcome.

anthony
31-08-2006, 04:55 PM
I would say that is a realistic fear kells, because lets face it, it is already researched and results obtained that children who grow up within disruptive households and households with parents having mental illness, the children themselves often become more susceptable to depression and other illnesses themselves. However... from bits and pieces I have also read, it is not always the case, because it depends on each families approach to the circumstances. Whilst some childrens scores where higher for disruption, others where not. This means that you as parents and the sufferers of the illness control the path your children grow within, and the influences that could directly impact them in adulthood. If you have uncontrolled PTSD, anger and sentment constantly displayed to the children, offcourse they are going to grow up thinking that is normal. If you have controlled PTSD, emotional discussions, talk, family time together and arguements and household disruptions are minimal (no different from any household), then the children should be just fine, if not less susceptable because they are capable to deal with their emotions at an emotional level, and not display what mum and dad did, fear, anger and rage, no communication, etc etc...

We choose our emotional paths for our children... sometimes that is enough to ensure adults get themselves constant help and therapy, ensuring their children do not become part of the current cycle.

YoungAndAngry
01-09-2006, 11:03 AM
I'm very fascinated with the fact that both of you have PTSD...

Kells
01-09-2006, 03:40 PM
Youngandangry, I guess i'm used to it, heh. I noticed the private forums for those who have it and the spouses that don't and that we can't be in both even though in my case, my husband and I both fit in both categories. One thing I can say about both of us having it is, we don't have a boring household! :-D

Kerrie-Ann
01-09-2006, 11:08 PM
My biggest question that remains for me is... What will come of the children? How will they turn out having grown up in a family where both parents suffer from PTSD? That is the biggest fear of mine above all else. I have had many discussions with my children about this and have explained what we do, and why we do it in an effort to help them understand, but the fear still remains about their outcome.

Kells,

First welcome to the forum. Gee, I don't know that I envy you.........two of you with PTSD, I guess it would be easier to understand where they are coming from. Or in your case each of you but bloody hell! Your right it would be an interesting household.

I have quoted the last part of your post as it is one of my biggest fears also. In fact I made a post on this just recently in the spouse's part of the forum. Sometimes the line for those of us with partners who have PTSD is blurred as to what is normal marriage/relationship bs and what is attributed to PTSD. I guess it is the same thing with children. We have two between us and one due in November and I wonder often about the impact on them. I am certain I drive Anthony nuts (for want of a better term) sometimes with being what he considers 'over protective' with the toddler but I feel very strongly that he needs that buffer zone sometimes. Not often do I step in where Anthony's eldest son (teenager) is concerned but I have on occasions. Sometimes I can see the impact on both of them at different levels of the scale.

The positive from this though as Anthony has said, is that it drives both of us to sort out our own rubbish to try and make the family environment better. I am not sure I would have been so motivated if I didn't have Alexanders well being to consider. It has also helped me to learn fighting strategies in a way that counselling never could........I have learned to walk away, its taken me a long time but its a step in the right direction. I can often pick a mood in Anthony and will clearly tell him that I am not going to fight with him, especially not in front of the children and I walk away. You can't argue with that.

Kells
02-09-2006, 08:36 AM
Hello, Kerrie Ann and thank you for the warm welcome =)
I can definitely say that I envy your relationship. My husband and I haven't gotten anywhere near the point that you described, unfortunately. Unless we're talkng about issues as serious as the weather, or the game that he and I enjoy playing, it is guaranteed to become an argument. So we completely avoid any 'real' discussions altogether. Our marriage literally hangs by a thread. The only thing I think that holds us together is the fact that we both need each other for one reason or another. He can't survive completely independantly due to his physical and mental ailments and I can't afford to support all of our 6 children alone financially for various reasons, some of which include this ptsd, which is absolutely frustrating. For some reason I thought that once I got out of the abusive situation as a child, that everything would be much better. And somehow, this seems worse than the abuse itself.

Kerrie-Ann
03-09-2006, 02:41 PM
Hey Kells,

Your welcome. Believe me, we still have hurdles that need to be overcome, although Anthony will tell you he is comfortable at the moment........that's not necessarily a good thing. We struggle on the communication front and the 'little things' front. It has taken us a while to get here and it has been touch and go many times. I think both of us really want to lessen the impact on the children and that is the big motivator. They don't deserve the crap that was dished out to us and something that they have no understanding for. Your situation is a little more 'unique' than mine though because there is only one of us with PTSD and that is plenty. Keep posting, vent if you need to or just tell us about your day.

purdyamos
06-09-2006, 02:14 AM
Hello Kells,

Welcome here. I've always dreamed of having someone who would 'understand' (I've never had a relationship). But that implies someone as messed up as me, how would that work!? I really hope you can hold it together. I certainly feel for you when you say you thought it would get better once you were out of it. I thought as soon as I left home I'd start healing and it would all drift far away in my mind, but it's still all there and I can't escape it. I suppose being needed (and needed by six children, too) helps keep you going. I hope the both of you can work together on the forum, it would be an interesting perspective to follow the progress of. :smile: