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| | Notices | Welcome to PTSD Forum. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) is a life threatening, debilitating disorder that can break down a sufferer’s body through anxiety and stress. Further it poses a significant suicide risk resulting from the brains neurological imbalance and chemical depression. Sufferers often live in denial, thus this community is aimed at helping PTSD sufferers help themselves through others experiences, guidance and education. We are here for the sufferer, spouse and families surrounding PTSD. Spouses and family are too often forgotten in this equation, and often they receive all the worst that PTSD has to offer. If you're involved in any way with PTSD, get registered and help yourself now. Non-active members will eventually be deleted. If you are not a sufferer, carer or someone within the mental health industry, and active, then there is little reason for you to be a member of this forum. Non-active members with zero posts are deleted periodically during the year. |  | 
14-10-2006, 12:53 AM
|  | Administrative Editor PTSD | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| | A Structured Process to Healing PTSD I have been doing some reading of late, research and so forth, trying to find exactly what structure I really use to help others, being what really does work for PTSD sufferers. I think I have it down now to a more definitive selection criteria, and wanted to share it here so sufferers and spouses can see what structure really does work to heal trauma and learn PTSD management. - Remembering the Trauma
- Uncover the trauma
- Reconstructing the trauma mentally
- Feeling the Feelings
- Why we must feel
- Processing the feelings we feel
- Living With Anger
- The problems with anger
- Anger at one self
- Anger at others
- How to manage anger
- Understanding Grief and Sorrow
- The benefits of grieving
- The grieving process
- Strategies for coping with grief
- Accepting grief
- Empowerment
- Appreciating your own progress
- Self care and safety
- Avoiding revictimization
- Harnessing rage
- Compensations if appropriate
- Accepting the scars
Most of this, bar a few subtle changes, is exactly as per a book I read, "I can't get over it", which depicts this style of recovery, being the recovery process I use which works. I think its very accurate, definitive and guides a person from trauma itself, to taking power over trauma, thus taking control over your PTSD.
I guess I am shareing this more so people can see an effective method that works, which is vastly different from the doctrine CBT model of therapy, which I found myself was not as useful at all stages as I would have desired for my own PTSD recovery. | 
17-12-2006, 03:22 PM
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| | Ok, I should add to this as I have since really hit the nail on the head so to speak with what I have done to myself in order to heal, thus try and get others to see for themselves, and apply uniquely upon themselves. I call it "abstract logic". Yes, very weird. Abstract: consider a concept without thinking of a specific example; consider abstractly or theoretically, or Abstract: dealing with a subject in the abstract without practical purpose or intention; "abstract reasoning" Logic: reasoned and reasonable judgment; "it made a certain kind of logic", or Logic: a system of reasoning
My mind thinks both logically, and abstractly, in that whilst a known technique may exist, that doesn't mean I have to accept the theory that it was founded upon, because often most theories and studies are looking for conclusive answers began they even began, which means the results are tainted and all options have not fully been explored. For example, if you look at medication trials, doctors might pull in 500 sufferers of PTSD. They then subject that 500 to initial testing of certain criteria in which they are looking for. Tainted here first. They then exclude certain subjects for whatever reason they seem fit, basically, the people with PTSD that they don't want within their trial. They then take the remainder and subject them to further testing to find the top 100 that meet a criteria they have already determined to run the test. Tainted again to specifics.
As you can see, instead of randomly choosing 100 subjects to run the trial upon, the moment they go looking for specific characteristics within the subject, the outcome is being pre-determined, instead of being found or discovered. This is what 90%+ of physicians, therapists and so forth base their teaching and counselling techniques upon, theoretical models that have been constantly tainted to provide pre-determined results.
This means, we are learning what they want us to learn, not what actually could work for us, the patient, as an individual. Every person is an individual, and what works for one does not work for another, yet the moment you go looking for something and have a pre-determined outcome, you have stopped looking at the full scope of ideas, knowledge and learning.
In the military this was called "blinkers". Basically, a person has their blinkers on, which means their sight and concepts are narrow minded, not seeing the full picture. Now most people see things in this way, but its not working to help those who suffer PTSD. Why? Because PTSD is not just one illness, its a combination of illnesses rolled into one. This one illness, PTSD, is so powerful that it churns your internal emotional system into an unknown entity. You no longer can isolate exact emotions, exact feelings or thoughts, instead you are given one answer one minute, another the next, another 30 seconds later, all going into your brain and createing confusion.
Basically, PTSD is causing our internal emotional and neurological system into an abstract form of itself. (My theory based on individulasim).
Simply put, when PTSD is at play within us, trying to keep something within us stable long enough to put our finger upon the feeling / emotion / issue to resolve it is a huge chunk of the problem. Conventional therapy models to date cannot provide us information about ourselves, only solutions to problems that we know we have, ie. PTSD, Raped, MVA, Killed, etc etc. We know those problems exist already, we know we have PTSD, but what exactly is going on within us determines how we find the solution to the problem uniquely, as individuals. My favourite saying again, "what works for one, may not work for another" because we are all uniquely wired as such.
So abstract logic in essence, from the definitions above, is taking our knowns, our reasoning (logic), and combining that with our individualism, being our unknowns (without specific examples, practical purpose, defined conclusions - abstract), to find what works uniquely for each one of us.
Known models of therapy, CBT, EMDR, Light Therapy, etc etc... all worked of fundamentally flawed systems that use a known based structure to define a desired outcome. Now whilst this works for some people, it doesn't seem to be doing a whole lot in the overall purpose of the PTSD sufferer for the above mentioned reasons.
So the solution is to take our known reasoning models of education and experience, then combine that with our unknown individualism. How? A combination of mental imagery to discover ourselves, and then our individualism as such combined with known theories that have worked to a level of degree.
Now this can be done by a few people with nothing more than time and education, ie. the way in which I got to where I am today, though most do not think the majority of the time outside of known logic or reasoning. If you know the term, "to think outside the box" or "thinking outside the square", then this is what must be applied within ourselves in order to know how to uniquely help ourselves, as there is no one solution that blankets PTSD in order to heal. It took my way of thinking to discover this myself, however; I believe mental imagery can help people find their full emotional understanding much faster than having a specific type of thinking pattern with time itself to discover.
Yes, I most likely just confused a whole lot of people... but that is my unique thinking style. Very wired, very 360 degree visualization towards a given problem. | 
19-12-2006, 08:49 PM
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| | I would be full of it simply put not to agree that yes, you confused me and others. But a lot of it stood out. The thing I cannot wait for is what you mentioned of mental imagiery. I know multiple traumas cannot be addressed the same as not all of mine can be or have been effectively. But as you keep working you keep helping... So thanks. | 
20-12-2006, 09:32 AM
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| | Something to think about then veiled... maybe help everyone along.
We as individuals have a unique and constantly changing mental image of ourselves. This changes pretty much daily, even multiple times throughout a day depending on what is going on within our lives.
What is the biggest problem healing trauma? Finding our true emotions to what we feel from suffering.
How is trauma healed? The only way to heal trauma is by healing the emotions we feel in regard to that trauma.
What is mental imagery? Mental imagery is a process where the individual actually outlines their current emotional state, and based on thousands of patients criteria taken over a decade+, there are known unique colours, textures, patterns, objects, etc etc... a persons unique emotional state at that time can be isolated to depict their exact emotional issues. Basically what I am saying, is that you no longer have a physician trying to find your emotional state, because with mental imagery, you actually provide it within a specific drawing answering certain known factors.
Our mind whilst not being capable to remember all words, conversations, etc etc throughout our life, from birth, does remember images. Our mind takes constant snapshots of life itself. Within those snapshots contain our emotional state at that time, believe it or not, but our brain keeps it all. The problem is, is if asked to try and access it, or decipher the image to find your emotions, you couldn't do it for pretty much most of your life. Now what if our true emotional problems are sitting in all these snapshots that we cannot access? Which pretty much is what happens by the way. So if we cannot access the information from the images, we can still see certain things at any one time, being an image in which we translate from our snapshots onto paper with certain give criteria. This image will change from day to day, as you feel different things, but just don't know exactly what they are.
Basically, mental imagery is not about curing PTSD, because we know that can't be done just yet. What it does though, is it speeds up the process in which we heal, because by knowing exactly what emotions we feel at any one time, we can deal with those emotions from our known techniques that are now theory, and used as the basic learning models around the world.
Instead of healing PTSD over a year or more, what if a person could heal emotional states for the most part within a week / month then move onto the next major emotional state? What takes us the longest to work out? To find our emotions then learn how to deal with them. What happens to us once we have dealt with the most major of trauma (emotions)? The rest seem like small fry, thus we use what we learnt and apply to those as well. What if a more efficient, productive and accurate method could simply tell you your current emotional state at any given time? Instead of looking for what we feel, and trying to understand it, in mental imagery you are given what you feel from your input, and understanding that goes with it to a degree. So we as the sufferers are only left with a smaller portion of the job in which to heal a trauma, instead of taking so long in order to do it.
That means that if this process can be rapidly sped up, this means we can take healing time to much faster rates, which means instead of people dwelling around, being unemployed for a decade or so, people can heal trauma and get back into life very quickly. Obviously we must learn how to manage PTSD itself still, but that is nothing if we have healed our trauma at such a rapid rate. | 
20-12-2006, 10:26 PM
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| | That sounds beyond great. But how could this work for someone like me and a few here who has the subconsious obviously active; as in we get glimpses of those snap shots, but no hard core memory? We can feel and remember emotional states but clueless why those little glimpses evoked those emotions? If we don't "know", except by being told, how do we work on it then?
Like when I was kidnapped and raped I remember plenty enough and when triggered I could focus and work on it as it pulled things out I did not see before, but I had to be triggered. But as far as my brother, no recall practically but emotions stand out as I try to make sense of them.
And then with multipule traumas... One triggers the next emotional state or memory and makes it almost impossible to stay on track of just one trauma at a time, you end up bouncing all over.
Would this be something more geared for single trauma or the multipules too? I know you are still working on this but maybe my questions will help others gather it, comprehend... | 
20-12-2006, 11:00 PM
|  | Administrative Editor PTSD | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| | Mental imagery is geared towards any person, trauma or not, multiple or not, it doesn't matter, because the ability for the patient to try and apply their own logic is removed, because the logic is deciphered from taking a current mental projection and not merely the patients emotions. Dr Roerich actually explains it the best in his preface in his book, which no, is not public and basically has a secret classification at present, as a better term. I am actually very fortunate and appreciative that he shared it with me, as it contains his life work to date (The only copy in Australia). Quote:
Mental imagery appears to be the basic unit of emotion and memory. If you recall your earliest memory you will find an image, not the spoken or written word. Sight, sound and emotions form the living theatre of our experiences as actors on the stage of life. Our identity, self esteem and relationships with others are captured by mental images, which have meaning and function.
Who has not had a dream? They are not for entertainment during sleep. They tell a story of the strong emotions and issues we have within ourselves and with others. If they were random neuron firings in the brain then these images would not mean anything, but they do.
Mental imagery is a phenomena where we can perceive those objects and life events that are no longer there. The original stimulus is gone yet we can re-experience it, especially if strong emotions are involved. Unlike dreams we can voluntarily recall these mental images. By studying their message we can learn why we feel how we feel.
Mental imagery changes over time, as you change; it is a reflection of how you feel on that day. As you learn more about why you feel how you feel it will empower you to heal negative emotions and build on positive ones.
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