Donate for PTSD
Donate - PTSD Forum is quite costly to run, maintain and improve. All donations are appreciated.
New To PTSD Forum
FAQ's - All you need to know contained in Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ).
PTSD Forum Extra's
PTSD Forms - PTSD Forum provide a PTSD assessment and self analysis form.

PTSD Learning - Contains some PTSD learning information and presentations.
Recommendation
Firefox Browser PTSD Forum recommends the use of Firefox Browser with Search Status add-on, plus your countries relevant English dictionary add-on. This enables forum members to spell check and remove typical toolbars from their browser.

Go Back   PTSD Forum > Break The Ice > Chat - PTSD

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 14-12-2007, 03:58 PM
becvan's Avatar
becvan becvan is offline Gender Female
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: T. Bay, Ontario Canada
Posts: 3,231
Blog Entries: 7
becvan is a splendid one to beholdbecvan is a splendid one to beholdbecvan is a splendid one to beholdbecvan is a splendid one to beholdbecvan is a splendid one to beholdbecvan is a splendid one to beholdbecvan is a splendid one to beholdbecvan is a splendid one to behold
Default

That is quite enough.

CJ, eluding to some conspiracy and then stating that "none of you are ready for" was rather rude. Either share the information or don't. Telling another member to "live with it" when that member is quite obviously struggling with this topic was uncalled for.

It is also obvious that you are struggling with the same incident. Rather than have a pissing match over who this is more touchy for, why not try to reach out and help each other through it.

The same goes for you too Grace. Despite the rudeness.. look underneath. I see two sufferers, being triggered and biting each other's heads off.. instead of doing what this forum was meant for.

bec
  #22  
Old 16-12-2007, 07:21 PM
cactus_jack's Avatar
cactus_jack cactus_jack is offline Gender Male
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Colorado
Posts: 539
Blog Entries: 1
cactus_jack has a spectacular aura aboutcactus_jack has a spectacular aura aboutcactus_jack has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by becvan View Post
That is quite enough.

CJ, eluding to some conspiracy and then stating that "none of you are ready for" was rather rude. Either share the information or don't. Telling another member to "live with it" when that member is quite obviously struggling with this topic was uncalled for.
Ok, I'll let it fly. The young man was on medication. Did the media mention that? Can't say I recall that. Is that an issue? Since from what I know of him he and his family have disputed these meds, but it's a requirement by the school (which I don't recall the name of) for him to be there. Are you guys ready for that? No. I know this too well Bec because I am in the very same situation. I have seen doctors, and they say there are no meds for my problem, that CBT is the way to go, so what happens? I'm told to go to more doctors to find WHAT medications will help.

I am going through the same crap that young man went through. He didn't need meds, and when they got him on them, look what came of it. He flipped out. People died. HE died.

Quote:
Originally Posted by becvan View Post
It is also obvious that you are struggling with the same incident. Rather than have a pissing match over who this is more touchy for, why not try to reach out and help each other through it.
Am I struggling with it? Not really. I am struggling through the same mess he went through before he died, though. Grace and others, I have to ask how this affects them. Do they know him? Do they know the intimate details of his case? Do they live near by? That is what I fail to understand- how can anyone be traumatized by this when they have no ties or relation to it? That's where I start making enemies Bec, because I see people making something out of what I view as nothing. No ties or relation, no impact. It could be that I simply see it as different. But in the end, it's no one's business. And yes there's a lot more that is still no one's business and you can ban me if you want, because no one's gonna get it.

That is information no one needs. It's none of Grace's or anyones business. You think that's rude Bec? Exactly. It's very rude of those that have nothing to do with it to have a need for such details. It's called privacy. And until I find enough reason for Grace to validate her need for this info, I think she's nosy and it's none of her business.. And Bec I think it's rude of you to say what you said. Was I rude? Not then though I am now. Don't like the truth?
  #23  
Old 17-12-2007, 03:59 AM
veiled's Avatar
veiled veiled is offline Gender Female
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: U.S.A. Kansas
Posts: 3,540
Blog Entries: 1
veiled is a splendid one to beholdveiled is a splendid one to beholdveiled is a splendid one to beholdveiled is a splendid one to beholdveiled is a splendid one to beholdveiled is a splendid one to behold
Default

Bec, said this was quite enough and it is.

CJ, it is obvious this is triggering you due to you feel you are in the same boat.

How does it effect others? It effects them because they have PTSD. Many opt to not watch the news because reading and seeing bloodshed triggers their symptoms too. The fear is triggered and fear is a major component of PTSD. If you have PTSD you do not have to be in close proximity, have ties, or relations to him. For many simply it means the world is unsafe and that they could be hurt anywhere. It can make them ill and triggers them because of this.

It would not heavily effect "normal" people because it is just another news story and blow it off. Having PTSD many people are not capable of that. That is what makes PTSD what it is.

If privacy were such a huge issue for a dead person then you would not have come on to say I know things. Common sense dictates most people would say really? What? It seems to me if this was the end result of someone in our shoes you would want to let people know so people are once again made aware of what this does to people and how far it drives them.

I am closing the thread as I agree with bec, it has simply turned into a pissing match.
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off