Yer, they said the US military is backing funding for it, because they basically want to use it on their soldiers. Now this is what will happen to soldiers, with military intentions. They will make their soldiers believe this drug is the best thing, they will be told it will cure them even, then they will take it four times a day and sent back into combat. See the idea? Instead of soldiers falling apart after combat as their brain is full of trauma, the military are going to suppress it with this drug, stick a cap on it, then send them back into combat so they can get more rotations out of them.

Now, here is the interesting part. Remember the initial post on how this drug works, by capping the adrenal system from pumping adrenalin to the brain and body putting it into anxiety and panic! What happens to a soldier when they need that adrenalin to fight through, but its capped by a drug being used to suppress the anxiety and panic components of prior trauma? All shit is going to break loose on this one, I can see that already.

These stupid arse doctors who can't think outside the box, and just want their name to be recognised for something, anything, just be recognised without regard for the actual people their f*cked up ideas are going to be used upon. Its not the doctor that is going to suffer, they're not taking the drug, just pumping it out to others thinking they have done a wonderful thing, when infact they just made matters worse.

The worse part to using this on soldiers, is that they are going to endure more trauma than their brain is capable, come home and finally fall apart so badly they will be disfunctional to even themselves, then watch what happens when more soldiers suddenly take up weapons and go on shooting rampages through military / veteran organisations for condoning this very act to be done to them in the first place.

Yeah the whole thing stinks.. and stinks bad!

I.... hell.. I just don't have words for my level of disgust over this...

bec

If you ask me, the whole thing smells of human experimentation without all that tedious mucking about with paperwork.

"Human resources." This is not good news at all.

I was doing a quick search and I found this thread. Anyway, I was in this trial of propranolol, and just ended it (early) because it wasn't working. (I had hoped that I was on the placebo, but I found out that I was on the actual drug.) Anyway, even though it didn't work for me, I would want people to know that the doctor, Dr. Roger Pitman, (who, by the way, I have an appt. with tomorrow), is really good and is just doing his best to find VARIOUS treatments for PTSD, as not everything works for everyone. He made sure I knew that even if the propranolol worked, it was NO miracle drug; I would never "forget" about the trauma, but perhaps some of the PTSD symptoms might ease up. I gave 100% INFORMED consent before the treatment, and I was made aware MANY TIMES about possible side effects before I started the trial. (I had no physical side effects.) I, too saw that 60 minutes (or whatever it was), and I'm sure you know how the media likes to put its own spin on things. Anyway, it was Dr. Pitman who decided to take me off of the drug and end the trial since (in my case) it seemed to be doing more harm than good; he is MUCH more interested in helping the individual than earning "fame" from some new drug. (I think part of the problem why it didn't work in my case is that this was the first time I had ever confronted the details of my trauma to anyone other than a police detective, and it was all a bit too much.) Currently, Dr. Pitman is seeing me (free of charge) until he can find someone who will be a good match for me and a treatment that will help for where I am currently at. If anyone is living in the Boston area, he is still looking for people to enter the trial. If anyone wants more info., feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to share.

nic

Nic, great information from experience. Thank you. I think the point of this topic though was what you confirmed... in that whilst physicians are trialling something, it was made out and spread across the globe as the wonder drug. Even though we know it is not true, and as a beta blocker it doesn't just get rid of your trauma, the military are now giving it to troops after combat. Why? Because it suppresses the trauma long enough so the military won't have to admit liability for the PTSD any longer. If they lower the numbers the public gets off their back. It the numbers increase years down the track, who cares... the military have an excuse that x,y and z happened in their life between leaving the military and then.

I am disappointed in many within who even attempted to bring such a thing to light and made statements about the drug until they have thoroughly tested it for PTSD and its effect on trauma. The drug was used on other disorders, schizophrenia being one of them.... someone just decided to try and market another "cure" for PTSD to the public nonsense....