Forum Rules Discussion - Page 4

anthony · #31 22-10-2006, 05:25 PM

Ok, I can't find the conversation now... maybe we removed it. So sorry purdy about using your name, not sure why I thought it was you... the conversation was in regards to someone here wanting support to lie to the military as they had already been accepted, and how they weren't going to disclose they had PTSD to them. As the story went, the military is a job that can cause PTSD, and then compensate for it, hence why the ethical nature of that member garnishing support was wrong.

I am sorry purdy for putting your name... not sure why I though it was you, or the username started with "P". Please accept my apology, my mistake 100%.

anthony · #32 22-10-2006, 06:05 PM

Ok, thanks to the help of veiled, I found the user and conversation. The user I was referring to was not purdy, but instead cdunny, in this thread: Scared to Death-- On the Verge

Some of the posts where removed from the thread, but basically cdunny wanted support to join the military and not disclose PTSD. This is an example of what I will not put up with, as I really don't like liars, and I will not condone such things upon this forum, nor anyone gathering support to lie in order to help them feel better about their act/s.

Again, sorry purdy, I mixed you up with Cdunny.

veiled · #33 22-10-2006, 06:19 PM

But we have to keep in mind that this was where things get sticky as when and what to do about something, because shortly after being told what she did not want to hear like many of us, she got to this point in this other thread she later followed up with Acceptance or Defeat? You decide.

So that shows where hard and fast rules are hard to apply. But also why it should be made clear you may not like the approach here or be ready for it. Sometimes you have to hit the bottom first to start to get it.

purdyamos · #34 23-10-2006, 12:42 AM

Hi, thanks Anthony, I was rather startled! As I say elsewhere, I'm the first to admit my flaws and unangelic behaviour (when I'm not in the middle of an attack, alas). I'll try to absorb the spirit of the rest of the thread regarding how I can better channel my rages, though.

anthony · #35 24-10-2006, 02:11 AM

I really am so sorry purdy... I should have checked first... but couldn't find it, and tried to remember, and for some reason you name popped into my head, but then when veiled mentioned cdunny, the light switch clicked... and I went looking. Because we edited the thread was why I had trouble tracking it down... damn it. So sorry though purdy, and I learnt a lesson... always check before I speak.

Boo-Damphir · #36 24-10-2006, 04:18 AM

I have reviewed all the posts in this thread with much interest. Several thoughts came to mind:

1.) Anthony, do you need help with all the incoming members? Perhaps a triage system. You could do a quick over view of them and delete the obvious spammers. Ones that may need some further checking on could be handled by you. The people that appear legit could be directed to a Welcome Thread.

2.) Perhaps as a final step of gaining access to the forum could be a simple questionairre. This would help verify "good" email addresses as well as give you an idea of someones' intent. i.e. What made you want to join this forum?, or What are your expectations from this group?

3.) The Moderators could be part of welcoming new members once they have gotten past the first 2 steps. I like the idea of having everyone posting in a Welcome thread for a little while. Like the case of "pity-me" boy, those intentions become obvious quickly.

4.) I also liked the suggestion for a method of reporting suspected bad behavior (above and beyond our normal pissy day of course). I enjoy reading the posts and replies from the variety of personalities; I actually pick up tips on communicating with irrational or out of control people (or not fueling their fire all together) when to challenge, support or just sit back and listen.

I think we all agree that we are a Vulnerable Community.
Vulnerable simply because not everyone in the world is nice;
and a Community because we share common bonds and support eachother.

anthony · #37 24-10-2006, 07:29 PM

Thanks Boo... good to see an oversight of this actually.

#1 - Not really, as the member numbers themselves are nothing much to deal with as numbers, just the sifting of spammers and known trouble makers.

#2 - I like that idea actually, and might just incorporate that into the new forum rollout.

#3 - I have sorted most of the BS now, as all new members go into moderation, and they are made aware of this within the automatic welcome private message, ie. their posts will disappear when they submit, which are still present, but just need a moderator to approve them before the public can view them.

#4 - The forum already has this. On each post made, in the top right off every post you will see a little triangular icon with an line in it. If you click that, you will be taken to a report post screen, fill in any specific details if you want, and every moderator / admin will get an immediate email about it, with direct link to the post / thread and then remove it.

The new rollout will have detailed FAQ's, processes, layout, features, highlight important aspects of board use, etc. This is why it will take me a good couple of months to sort it all out, and do my normal tasks.

anthony · #38 27-10-2006, 01:13 PM

Ok, here are the forum rules as posted within the registration process, which must be accepted by checking the agreed box. Feedback, edits, spelling, etc, all much appreciated.

Quote:

Spammers Take Notice
PTSD Forum is heavily moderated, and all new users are automatically placed into moderation for their initial posting history, which means simply; the public cannot see your spam when you post it, only a moderator who will be removing it. In essence, your the only person wasteing your time, as it only takes 3 clicks of the mouse to ban and remove your entire posting history, all without the public or members viewing your spam. Waste your time if you want.

Member Initial Posting
Because of the above implications of Internet spammers, your initial posting history will begin in moderation. What this means, is that when you create a new thread (topic), or reply to an existing thread (topic), your thread / post will disappear once you click "submit". The information is still there, you just cannot see it, nor can the public. A moderator will approve your postings as you make them, which will allow your posts to then come public. There is no time limit set on being in moderation as such. You will come out of moderation once a moderator is happy that you are not a spammer and a legitimate forum member. Please do not take offence too this, as it is merely to keep our members safe from the Internet predators that lurk this forum looking for an opportunity to exploit themselves, or even as has already been found, sexual predators wishing to expose members vunerabilities, ie. rape sadists. Remember, this is not personal against you, so please post as normal, and your posts will become public as a moderator approves them. Once a moderator is happy with your posting history and legitimacy, you will be moved to the registered members group which will take you out of moderation. You cannot request to come out of moderation.

Member Code of Conduct

All members are allowed their opinion, neither right or wrong, and a persons opinion must be respected.
As per (1), no member is to attack another member because of their opinion, or failure to accept anothers opinion.
No member has a crystal ball, so don't guess or think you know what another is thinking, simply ask or clarify if a response is taken the correct way.
All members may vent, yell, rant, rave, etc etc, however; none of which at any time is to be directed towards another member. There is a difference in venting anger vs. venting anger at another member.
Individuals who continue to act in ways deemed detrimental to other members of PTSD Forum may be banned or restricted from future postings.
Posts deemed disruptive to the overall nature of PTSD Forum may be removed at the discretion of the moderator.
Suicidal posts are not to be made. Talking about suicidal ideation is one thing, consuming a communities attention to suicidal posts is another. Posts about pending suicide will be removed immediately.
When wrong or in doubt, step back to evalutate, and say sorry or clarify. Simple isn't it?

General
Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed above. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.

Although the administrators and moderators of PTSD Forum will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of PTSD Forum, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

The owners of PTSD Forum reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

becvan · #39 27-10-2006, 02:11 PM

Sounds and edits good to me Anthony!!

Bec

anthony · #40 27-10-2006, 02:52 PM

Ok, thanks Kim for revising... he is the updated version:

Quote:

Spammers Take Notice
PTSD Forum is heavily moderated, and all new users are automatically placed into moderation for their initial posting history, which means simply: the public cannot see your spam when you post it, only a moderator who will be removing it. In essence, you're the only person wasting your time, as it only takes 3 clicks of the mouse to ban and remove your entire posting history, all without the public or members viewing your spam. Waste your time if you want.

Member Initial Posting
Because of the above implications of Internet spammers, your initial posting history will begin in moderation. This means when you create a new thread (topic), or reply to an existing thread (topic), your thread / post will disappear once you click "submit". The information is still there, you just cannot see it, nor can the public. A moderator will approve your postings as you make them, which will allow your posts to then become public. There is no time limit set on being in moderation as such. You will come out of moderation once a moderator is happy that you are a legitimate forum member, not a spammer. Please do not take offense to this as it is merely to keep our members safe from the Internet predators that lurk this forum looking for an opportunity to exploit themselves, or even as has already been found, sexual predators wishing to expose members' vunerabilities, ie. rape sadists. Remember, this is not personal against you, so please write as you normally would and your posts will become public as a moderator approves them. Once a moderator is happy with your posting history and legitimacy, you will be moved to the registered members group which will take you out of moderation. You cannot request to come out of moderation.

Member Code of Conduct

All members are allowed their opinion, neither right nor wrong, and a person's opinion must be respected.
As per (1), no member is to attack another member because of their opinion, or failure to accept another's opinion.
No member has a crystal ball, so don't guess or think you know what another is thinking; simply ask or clarify if a response is taken the correct way.
All members may vent, yell, rant, rave, etc. etc., however; none of which at any time is to be directed towards another member. There is a difference in venting anger vs. venting anger at another member.
Individuals who continue to act in ways deemed detrimental to other members of PTSD Forum may be banned or restricted from future postings.
Posts deemed disruptive to the overall nature of PTSD Forum may be removed at the discretion of the moderator.
Suicidal posts are not to be made. Talking about suicidal ideation is one thing, consuming a community's attention to suicidal posts is another. Posts about pending suicide will be removed immediately.
When wrong or in doubt, step back to evaluate, and say sorry or clarify. Simple isn't it?

General
Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed above. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forum's index.

Although the administrators and moderators of PTSD Forum will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of PTSD Forum, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

The owners of PTSD Forum reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.