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19-12-2006, 03:28 AM
| | | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: wallingford vermont
Posts: 151
| | The Eyes Have It - Looking People in The Eyes Is there anyone else out there that has a problem with eyes? I don't mean bad eyesight. For some reason I have a very difficult time looking at peoples eyes. I don't know if this contributed to this or not but at age 8 or 9 my dad had my sister and I watch the Exorsist. I was alright until she sat up in bed and spun her head around and I swear I saw her pupils jump right out of her head. My mom was at the neighbors and heard me screaming in the house. It took her close to half an hour to get me calmed down. Then about a month afterwards my cat was hit by a car and I was the one who found her. At first I thought she was sleeping until I got close enough to see that half her face was gone. Once again I flipped out and mom came running out of the house to find out what was wrong. To this day I have nightmares about Seven not whole like I remember her but as I found her.
There was one time that I went in to Dunkin Donuts to get a coffee. Normally its eyes down go in get what I need and leave. Why I looked up at her I still don't know. She asked me three times what she could get me and I just stood there like a dummie to the public in horror to myself. She had contacts in and they turned her eyes Red.I never did get my coffee. By the time I could react I was in such a panic I just turned around and left.
I can't look into a mirror and can't look uot a window after dark because I'm afraid of what might be out there. After my mare died earlier this spring I had nightmares that she was looking in the window as if asking why did you let me die? She had a stroke and there was nothing we could have done for her but why do I feel guilty?
Am I afraid of what I might see ? Am I afraid of what I might not see? I don't know . Just wondering if any one has the same problem or input on the subject.  | 
19-12-2006, 06:33 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Mountains, US
Posts: 233
| | I too avoid eye contact with others when I'm out in public. Although I don't have the same association with eyes as you do, I do it to keep others from engaging in a conversation with me.
"The Eyes Are The Window To The Soul" is so true. It's almost as if you have transferred some of your fears into the eyes of others. Or you could just be a product of our horror-movie society.
Ironically, one of my favorite things to draw are eyes :dont-know This may be a way for you to work through it also- draw eyes and take note of what kinds of emotions they bring up. | 
19-12-2006, 01:25 PM
| | | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas, USA
Posts: 45
| | I, too, can no longer look people in the eyes for very long...I get panicked if I do. I knew it had something to do with my trauma, because I didn't have a problem with it before, but now...I just can't look strangers (especially) in the eye. Good to know I'm not the only one with this problem.
But I still have no idea what the problem is, why I react the way I do. | 
19-12-2006, 08:16 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: U.S.A. Kansas
Posts: 3,540
| | I just think this has a thing to do with us being having a problem being personal. We are working on that here. I know very simplistic, but my opinion. | 
20-12-2006, 06:18 AM
| | | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somers Point NJ
Posts: 25
| | I have huge issues with people staring. It drives me right over the edge and into a frenzy. I usually end up saying something snide, rude and in a very loud voice. Most of the time though I refuse to look people in the eyes to make sure that I don't get that feeling. | 
20-12-2006, 11:07 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland, US
Posts: 292
| | The more ashamed/bad I feel about myself, the less I look into people's eyes. Strangers and loved ones alike. Every since I was a kid, I have been intrigued by people's eyes and how they see the world through them. I have been told that people sometimes get unnerved when I look them in the eye. I know I look intently. | 
20-12-2006, 11:52 AM
|  | Administrative Editor PTSD | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| | Jade, it is a self esteem, confidence issue within yourself, that is very normal with PTSD and abuse. You have been battered, suffered, etc etc... all at which a persons self esteem takes a huge beating. We stop believing in ourselves, we have little confidence in our abilities, etc etc... all of which directly correlates towards such things as looking a person in the eyes.
Try this for a test, and watch what happens to people. Most people do not actually have a high self esteem, because it takes a lot of work in which to build enough confidence within yourself to believe that you are worth more than you think. When you face someone next time, actually force yourself to look them in the eyes, and don't look away. What will happen is the person your talking with will 95% of the time look at you, then look away if the look is prolonged, because just from that look alone, you can tell whether a person has high self esteem. If a person looks at you constantly, without looking away at anything else, they have high self esteem. What I expect to happen, is that after 10+ seconds, the other person will look away and their eyes begin to wander around and back to you, and the cycle will repeat. Basically, what you have just done if you can do this, is demonstrate to another person whilst looking them in the eyes, that you are the more confident within yourself.
Interesting test... see if you can do it. Don't let a few failures let you down either... if you fail at all. You might have to do it 100 times before you get do it correctly, you might get it right the first time because you have enough self drive in order to do it. There is no right or wrong figure to attempts, just the end result in which you eventually get it. When you do, you will see exactly what I mean. | 
20-12-2006, 05:40 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: T. Bay, Ontario Canada
Posts: 3,231
| | yeah, I know. I'm supposed to be in bed and not on here.. LOl only a few replies though...
Anyways, I'm the exact opposite of this thread. If you won't look me in the eyes, then I won't talk to you. Why? Because it tells me so much about you. What you are really thinking, feeling. If you are listening etc.. It's my defense mechanism. Watch the eyes. People who won't look me in the eyes while talking? I walk away. To me, those people are not to be trusted even more so than a snake. Can't tell what is going on. They become unpredictable. LOL funny how we can all react to the "safety" thing eh?
Bec | 
21-12-2006, 02:47 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Mountains, US
Posts: 233
| | Eye contact is also culterally dictated. Some think that making eye contact is a sign of challenge or disrespect.
To me it's a very intimate thing to do which makes me uncomfortable.
However, if I'm wearing sunglasses, I will stare a hole into your eyes :dont-know | 
21-12-2006, 02:48 AM
| | | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: wallingford vermont
Posts: 151
| | Thanks for the advise Anthony I will try and give it a shot. You were right in one aspect. Self-esteem is at a zero. Confidence none to be found. Afraid of what I'll see in the eyes. Disappointment,anger,lies,pain,sometimes nothing just a blank. Something to work on. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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