i think that is a bit harsh, i dont see it as bashing as you call it and i dont think it is a race thing either just simply pointing out who has the most accidents in a war type situation.
look how big the us forces are they are naturally going to have more incidents than say aussie troops just on numbers and trying to control them.
and as for not posting again i think thats a bit silly i have one of my best mates who is a signaller and he still talks to me after i call him a p.o.g.o and he suffers from ptsd aswell.

"So what are we doing about those people making all those mistakes, etc?????????????????????????????"
-Generally alcohol and drugs are involved! Usually most get their asses sued off, or go to jail sometimes for manslaughter!!!!!!!

"Rules of War"... I can understand that, AS LONG AS WE ARE AT WAR FOR LEGITIMATE REASONS!!!!

The invasion of Iraq; makes me wonder if alcohol and drug use was somehow involved with that decision?! No, it was greed, revenge, ignorance and selfishness.

For those of you that voted him back into office... :up-yours: :moon:

Iraq and the Law of War
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=1588

Whoa... I just saw the follow-up posts from WC44 and Ranger 2-75. Well Ranger, I don't get caught up in all that bullshit about how the US does everything so perfectly, AND I DON'T BLINDLY FOLLOW, EITHER, ANYMORE. We make mistakes, just like any other military, and so I accept ill criticism from others when warranted. And Paul, you made some good points as well, IMO. Friendly-fire makes me sick though, so I have little tolerance of this type of mistake! And ranger, your out of line to take a crack at Anthony like that...:boxing: ... and me, considering I believe it was some of your 'brothers' who shot and killed poor Pat Tillman, so...:up-yours:

If y'all don't want to post here no more over this sht, then so be it.... the IXI botton is located top-right corner of screen. Good bye :claps:

:angry-fla :angry-fla :angry-fla

Seems like The #1 Rule of War is now in affect; some good and bad people may not be coming back with us after this fight. At least it's acceptable loss though... to hell with them!:jerk:

I must say, its interesting to see who can, and who can't actively engage within political discussion without losing their tempers! You can take a crack at Australia all you want, providing what you say has substance, as does the topic of this conversation. Thing said here are topical points in the world, and if you can't discuss topical points openly, without anger, there are more issues than meet the eyes here IMO.

Lets see... we own the Port Arthur masacre, you can bag Australia for that all you want, because it happened, just like all the friendly fire that American troops cause in war. These are facts, and facts should be discussed, and if you can't discuss facts, then what good is discussion in the first place?

Wow, I was staying away from this thread because I very clueless when it comes to Politics. Heck, I almost failed Social Studies class!! lol

Anyways, my response has nothing to do with Politics, I just wanted to express my disapointment that a controversial thread like this could do so much damage.

When I'm talking about 'damage', I mean many members (hopefully all of them) are here to heal and learn about PTSD. If a thread like this 'causes them to leave this support system... that's really unfortunate.

I should also clarify my statement about "cowboys", for example; the Kurd police attack (friendly fire), was under control by the US soldiers on the ground, then "the cowboy" in his gunship decided to put some rockets into the building, just because he likely has a little chubby and needed to relieve it by being "a cowboy". The troops on the ground if left would have called it back that the building was run by kurd police, but the cowboy in the gunship had other issues going on, and wanted to increase his chubby by firing some rockets into a building of which he knew little about.

The cowboys in most military are predominantly residing at command level, those who make decisions based on little intel, half arsed information, and send innocent troops into fight battles that they should not be fighting. Does America wonder why they keep getting their arse kicked in conflicts? I can tell you... because the cowboys rile things up constantly, instead of defending, they attack, attack, attack, and that is where the casualties are... and what do they attack? Some actual enemy, some civilians, some friendly fire... unacceptable in conflict I believe.

Somewhere along the lines in the management of the US military, life has become expendable... I wonder if it would be that way if the management where on the battlefield with a rifle in hand? Who really gets to make that decision that life is expendable to any cause? As mac said above about whoever put that spanner of a president back in within the US, need to take a good long look at themselves, because you elected a puppet of mass proportion, not a president who makes good decisions. Again as mac said, about the intent of any troops being in Iraq in the first place... hell, the entire world got lied too by the US for its reasons to be their, and I do say the entire world. The spanner elected was even backed into a corner and had to admit it on public television.

Now multiple countries have troops in a country for all the wrong reasons, not the right one's, and you wonder why other countries looking in are critical of the US motives anymore. Ha... Its not the poor soldier who is following orders, its the cowboys in management positions who make stupid decisions to get the poor old soldier killed.

Guys, I locked this thread yesterday!

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Being one who voted for him I looked at he did not screw up Texas as Governor. And considering who he was up against this last round... Hell, you might as well flip a coin. All we can do is try and to a lot of people Kerry did not seem to be able to make up his mind about a thing, he would vote one way then another, he was way confusing. This last session we did not exactly have a good selection. The process is corrupt. It is who ever has enough "money people" willing to back them and who throws the hardest during the mudsling fest before elections, while you sort through all the shit they throw out. You have no clue how many people who voted for him are groaning. '08 may prove very interesting. The Americans as a whole want to see changes.

Also, take in consideration we do not go by popular vote... Cannot figure that one out. We use electoral college. So for those who do not get it... We have our states. Each state carries so many "points" not all equal, depends on how many representatives per state. So if you win a state then those are the points added up.

Again many many who voted for Bush are kicking themselves, but considering who ran against him... Shudder. I would love a suggestion as to how we should hit the polls and see in the future who is going to be a royal dumb ass... Enabling my mind hee hee I see either party!

Note - Now see this is how you nicely disagree and invite answers as trust me I live here as an average and normal American. You must think I want what is best. Sadly the politicians only want what is best for them and that is both parties.

I think its great that people such as yourself veiled, who have voted for him, atleast now see that it was a mistake. How many still think he is doing great though? That is the scary part. I have been watching bits and pieces on hilary clintons speeches, and I must say I am actually impressed with what she is saying about where to start and try and fix the problems the current administration has caused.

Its a shame the system is so corrupt, because the world looks into the US for what it does, and of late years, not much good has come out to the rest of the world. This is not a reflection of the people, but a reflection of the country as a whole, the political level that travels the world, is what the world focuses upon. To the point now that China is set too take over as the new super power of the world this year, because that is how poorly the current administration has taken the country. Shame to see... but maybe its a good thing that if you put someone in that uses commonsense, not the typical political BS speeches, then maybe, just maybe, they might we swayed into fixing the country without the pressures exerted as the super power of the world as such, because lets face it, the US don't own any of the bombs they drop, instead the public has to pay for them, yet trillions of dollars in foreign debt because of this current administration, how long do you think it will take for the citizens to now square that debt off a good amount? A decade atleast.... the next president has one hell of a job ahead of them, and it would take them the first term just to sift through the shit, the second term if re-elected to start seeing results if the first term was well run. Hopefully the public see that if its the case. A decade is a long time for a country to suffer financially...