Social security that is taken from our pay checks at this point will never be seen. It just is not there. Old are going to go with out. It is heart breaking, you pay all your life to have a tiny check to help you as you age (but not enough to cover meds) and cannot work and it is basically gone.

Hilliary is scary. She does not stand by her words either and it will show up later I am sure. She is abrasive. My opinions there. But looking at the big picture how can countries that view women as property like a goat or cow be dealt with? She will be a joke to them unless we flex our muscles which is what we want to steer away from? I would love to vote a woman in, but considering some nations' views on women it may not be possible or wise as of yet. That would take some good sway. I am going to be looking into Obama's history to see if he is worthy. I do not vote party lines. But LOL... The latest hoopla I hear now is he is not "black enough". I just found out his mom is white. That is our media. So many need to see our media and the loud people are not a true reflection of the people as a whole here.

But that is the point, the media we see local is Bush has uhhhh language issues, can't get his words out right. Former Pres. Clinton all we heard about was the stupid blue dress and cigars. No one really hits real issues and does jack shit about them. Sad thing for Gore he did not hit them when he could, he missed the bus and his back bone came after the fact.

Things normal Americans want is our land safe. Watch our borders as we are a target like it or not. We do not want men running in circles playing world police. Spend the money to treat and find cures for Cancer and AIDS and help our poor (not lazy), not lets see what frigging bacteria we can scoop up from mars that is billions of dollars, that was sharp thinking for some one there too; what if that cash was put into job training? Not factory but work you can feed your family on and pay health costs? To me I am a nut job but somehow can have a wee bit of common sense. Maybe I am missing something.

What do they say again, those docs I see when I swear I am nuts? The ones who think they are sane are the ones nuts?

I think you're using plenty of commonsense actually veiled, and that last statement is a cracker... oh so true. Would putting a woman in as president though help persuade these countries that view women in such a manner, to see that what they are doing is not accurate of human beings, men and women being human beings as such, not just men, not just women, but all people?

Its interesting to get internal perspectives to Clinton, as we only see what the media want us to see, and the US obviously gets a lot more of the coverage.

Curious, which Clinton are you discussing there or is it both? I am afraid of them (woman hating nations) taking advantage and pushing harder with a female president, though she has brass balls. I will give her that.

But on the other hand some top scientists "the bad guys" who see women as property were women. Again very confusing. Maybe if they heard the phrase hell hath no fury like a woman scorned... But there ya go, right back in the same boat we are again. See it feels like a catch 22 over here. And there is no telling which Dem will will make to election. It may be Lady Clinton or Obama. We only get the one choice. Reps. have not jumped the gun like the Dems. have this year. I hear a lot about them making a bad move starting so soon, but I think it is pretty slick if they have good records, gives people plenty of time to review them. It will backfire big time if they were stupid.

Hiliary that would be... Ok, so do you think the democrats have put a male up also in lieu, just in case the whole woman idea falls through?

I think the Dems have their own lines to follow before they chose their "chosen one"... Their male is Obama. I place my money on him for the Dem elective.