Hi bev. I've not posted in a while, but I read daily. My major pet peeve in my work to help myself heal is psych docs. Most of these folks know nothing but drugs and are majorly influenced by huge pharmaceutical companies. PTSD is far to complex for their minds to understand. They are more than happy to medicate the hell out of people so they "feel" better. I tried Remeron too. I slept as if God Himself cursed me with eternal grogginess. I gained 15 pounds in one month and almost lost my job due to call ins. My feelings towards these doctors border on out right hate. Years of my life were wasted f'ing around with pills when I needed a supportive therapist who would listen and care. These people do not have the backbone to admit when they are wrong or do not know something. It is easier to blame us and call us noncompliant. Remeron will not help you sleep, it will FORCE you to sleep. You've no choice once you take it. Sorry to rant. I'm sure that somewhere in the world there's an honest psychiatrist who admits that he/she does not know everything. From my personal experience, I also believe this is more than likely a fantasy. BTW, I think your psychdoc sucks.

Thanks so much. I think she sucks too. Yeah forced sleep is a term for it. Being in a coma is much more like it. At least it's not just me. What dose were you on? I'm taking 3mg and I'm still out for over 11 hours straight.

Good to hear from you again, btw. How's life treating you?

bec

I believe the dose was 30mgs. I may be wrong. It was a while ago. Life's rough these days. Just can't shake this gloom and doom feeling. I'll post about that later. I don't take psych meds. Haven't for years. I'm better for it. Benadryl works great for me when I can't sleep. And it wears off and is gone. Continued Remeron use causes a zombie effect in me. Ugh, that stuff was awful.

There's actually 3 drugs, and they're all of the same drug family apparently, and I've tried all three. I don't remember the names of two of them, I'll have to think about it more, but the one is marketed as Lunesta (lunesta.com) in the USA. Sorry I guess I sort of lied about the side effects part, apparently there can be side effects, but they are quite uncommon. Most people experience no side effects, so I was told. I know I didn't have any side effects on any of the three drugs I tried, and that's quite telling for me as I usually react quite strongly to all drugs. Except I believe the one caused me to have a bitter taste in my mouth for about an hour after getting up in the morning, the first couple of days I took it. But I didn't have grogginess or headaches or weird dreams and so on. I slept for 8-9 hours straight each night I took a pill, but I felt awake when I got up in the morning, it wasn't so difficult to wake up as it is on other drugs. I had no withdrawals when I had go off them. These drugs are apparently non-habit forming. Anyways hope that helps. I'll try to remember the names of the other two but your doctor might know if you say they are related to Lunesta.

Umm Imovane and Ambien I believe but I could be wrong. Imovane works great.

bec

Shane:

30 mg is an insane dosage! No wonder you were a zombie! I am supposed to be on 7.5 and I can't even take that so I cut it in half.

The sedating part of remeron (now you are going to get a kick out of this) is the same ingredient in Benedryl! It's an antihistamine. So your taking the same thing! hehe... except for the mood altering ingredients that is.

I do hope your okay. I've been very bleak myself lately. Take care my friend.

bec

Not sure about Ambien, though I have heard of it, but YES thanks Bec, Imovane was the name of the other one and yes I agree it works well but is expensive! Anyways sorry to highjack your thread. And sorry you're feeling crappy today too. I wish I could help somehow...

LOL, I take a drug I seem to discover side effects they were not even known to have. Thanks for the names though. I have always been very scared of sleep aids (most drugs any way) but I am getting pretty damn desperate at the moment. And if I go visit my mom like she wants I really think I will need something to knock me out.

Still thread jacking Bec so sorry. I know that sometimes these meds knock you out. OK, almost all meds knock you out bec as you are so sensitive, do these make you feel well rested or is it just time unconscious? That last part of the question was directed at you both. Also, as far as tranqs go I am almost untouched unless it enough to hit an elephant. Like the horrible panic attacks that get to hospital phase I need 3 mgs to bring me down enough to not fully believe I am dieing. Not sure if that makes a difference as far as sleep aids? Would I be resistant as OTC ones don't work.

Evie is very much as you are Veiled, she is highly sensitive and gets strange side effects from most medications she has tried. These sleep aids listed however did not bother her in the slightest, which is saying quite a bit considering how very sensitive she is. So you may wish to give them a try.

Yes it's true what Mum says, I usually have weird side effects from whatever medication I've tried, but I didn't on these sleep meds. Lunesta is a hypnotic similar in action to benzodiazepines, except that it apparently targets a different area of the brain. I guess you would just have to try it out to see if it worked for you or not. As far as side effects go though you shouldn't have too much trouble.