As an aside, I think it's really hurtful and uncool to say to someone else on this site who has PTSD that they may not have an "inkling" of understanding regarding the trust issue.

Hi Rachel,
I didn't mean to hurt anyone. But perception seems to be the problem here. My point was, I just don't feel everyone is so open with their T like these posts seem to have indicated and that is why I didn't single anyone out, because there are to many that I wasn't 100% sure about.

If you feel hurt because I said "you may not" have an inkling of understanding there is something deeply bothering you here. I didn't use an absolute and say "You do not" have an inkling. What bothers you may not bother others, and vice versa. I can not predict that, and walk on egg shells when I post something here. Otherwise I might as well never make a post or give my opinion.

I think this site is to help others see different views and opinions and challenge everyone to be honest with themselves so healing can take place.

I totally agree! Which is why I have voiced my opinion in this thread. I don't think you should have to walk on eggshells, however I took your post as being attacking and felt as though you were assuming what others here have and have not experienced for themselves and almost challenging others in some of your statements (ie. try telling your therapist such and such) But, if that was not your intention, then I can accept that.

That doesn't change my original reaction - I thought it was hurtful and uncool in my eyes. I still have a right to express those feelings.

Best,
Rachel

Yes you have the right to express whatever you like, and it would be uncool if I said you don't have an inkling of what I'm talking about, because I don't know for sure if you have and inkling of what I'm talking about.

I didn't state that everyone here doesn't understand my point of view. That is what I'm trying to figure out.

I'm trying to see why some of the members are upset that a few of us don't trust enough to tell our T everything. Also, I don't think everyone is as honest with their T as they say they are. But that is just my opinion and could be wrong.

Carry on in peace
Tammy

Well, just for clarifications sake, I want to be sure that I've answered the questions that you have, since I'm one of the people here who became upset regarding people not telling their T everything.

"it would be uncool if I said you don't have an inkling of what I'm talking about, because I don't know for sure if you have and inkling of what I'm talking about."

A few posts back, I said this: I'm perplexed yet fully understand the reasoning behind not telling your T everything.

"I'm trying to see why some of the members are upset that a few of us don't trust enough to tell our T everything."

A few posts back, I said this: I strongly believe in personal responsibility. The posts in this thread have come across, to me, like people are refusing to take on the personal responsibility that goes hand in hand with going to therapy and healing oneself.

and this: it seems that all I can see from these posts are people who want dogs instead of doctors.

"I don't think everyone is as honest with their T as they say they are. But that is just my opinion and could be wrong."

I am honest with my Therapist. However, nothing I say or do will prove that to you because what goes on between my Therapist and I is private. Beyond that, I also don't think that I have to prove anything to you. You can either believe me or not.

So, I hope I've been able to clarify some things for you regarding my view about this subject. I appreciate the civil discussion and hopefully others who are upset about people not being honest with their T's will clarify some things for you, too.

Best,
Rachel

Wow, this makes me want to open-up and honestly share......and have a group hug later? (Did I mention how uncomfortable it is for me to be touched as well?)

Sleep-deprived and slap-happy, tude

Well, we seem to be having a rather intense conversation going on here. I am amazed at the pros and cons. I had no idea how strong people feel about this.

In my orginal post I simply asked a question. I did not understand WHY anyone would waste their time and money in therapy and not tell the truth. Therapy is difficult enough to handle. Pile dishonesty and non-disclosure on top of that, and IMHO you have a disaster.

I did not consider trust as an issue. in my orginal post. I guess that is because I was so relieved to be receiving treatment.

It really never occurred to me to "not trust" the people who were helping me. It seemed like everytime I said something another piece to the puzzle of my life fell into place.

Now, I must admit that when I was in the hospital and in group therapy, it took me 5 days before I would open my mouth. But group therapy was infront of other patients. Big difference! I did not trust them!

After 5 days I realized that the others were as screwed up as I was so what was to trust. Were we going to play 1 upsman. My trauma was worse than yours? Stupid! ! !

The therappist, counselor, MD--everyone there I trusted. It never occurred to me not to trust them. I just wanted them to help me. When I left the hospital, they referred me to another private T. Why would I not trust him? They sent me there.

It took me a while to tell some secrets, but through the tears and pain of each visit it was obvious to me that he knew what he was doing.

So the intensity of the reaction of some of you guys has really surprised and fasinated me> I just love to stir the pot and create thinking!

I did NOT say that I did NOT understand why people don't trust.

This is what I said....

I agree that people need to be responsible for their own therapy and well being. Yes there are a lot of issues that we have dealing with going to a therapist and telling everything. Trust, shame, quilt, fear, rejection, ect, ect. BUT!!!!!! We need to be able to take the plunge and go forward with things.

You can't keep going to therapy week after week, month after month, year after year, and NOT open up. You're not being honest to yourself, and IMO you are wasting the therapist time, and yours.

If a person doesn't open up, then they don't move forward.


When you don't tell the entire story, your therapist can't FULLY help you. You just may be holding back the part of the story that he/she needs to FULLY help you.

Yes, I told my therapist all that I knew at the time. I am no longer in therapy, but if I was, he would know all there is to know to date......

Well, this is good that in the last 3 posts it was pointed out what you meant. I obviously took what I wanted in the prior posts and lumped it all into one theory. My bad!

I'm too distracted to go back and read all of the posts so peace out.

Tammy

She Cat

Did I say something to upset you or that was out of line? You seem a little upset. I certainly did not intend to do that.

I must admit that this topic has become more intense than I anticipated, which is so cool!