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23-04-2008, 08:11 PM
|  | Moderated Member | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: U.K
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| | Yes Tammy,
That was a wonderful thing that you did for both of you. You have much compassion!
Spirit x | 
24-04-2008, 12:02 AM
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| | Hi Cactus, I do have a mini tape recorder. How do you record messages? I think I might do that if my phone has the ability.
I won't use it against her unless she continues to call me a liar. She could have said, "I think you made a mistake or you forgot and just 'think' you called" But calling me a liar really makes me mad.
Yes, please explain it to me if you would.
However, I'm going to continue to pray about it because that would be the best way, but it doesn't always work.
Thanks
Tammy
Last edited by Seeking_Nirvana; 24-04-2008 at 12:03 AM.
Reason: spelling
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24-04-2008, 04:43 AM
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| | I think taping her is going too far because it will come off as though you are taking this too personally and have it in for her. I would do the following:
The next time you need your meds, I'd follow whatever procedure your office has in place. If you have to call ahead, make you follow that procedure to the letter. Right after that, call your doctor or leave him a vm (whatever works) and notify him that you have just called this nurse for your refill. You should get your meds with no fuss that way.
If you don't, you have the doc in your corner that you called. You clearly aren't lying. Talk to her direct supervisor and inform her that she has a history of doing this to you. Tell her you are sure that if she is doing it to you, she's doing it to others. Tell her it is a "CARE ISSUE," as in she is impeding your health care. If it continues you will be forced to lodge a more formal complaint and consider taking your business elsewhere.
Remember, she's a nurse. Nurses are in short supply in this country. I doubt they are going to fire her for being a bitch, even though they should. But if they are impeding your care, they damn sure have to take notice. | 
24-04-2008, 06:46 AM
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| | Slow down pal,... It is easy to get upset with the system,.. I know ALL too well... But,.. Remember, you have the upper hand, and can "Fire" any health care taker/giver you want... SLOW DOWN,..
Rat | 
24-04-2008, 01:18 PM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeking_Nirvana Hi Cactus, I do have a mini tape recorder. How do you record messages? I think I might do that if my phone has the ability.
I won't use it against her unless she continues to call me a liar. She could have said, "I think you made a mistake or you forgot and just 'think' you called" But calling me a liar really makes me mad.
Yes, please explain it to me if you would.
However, I'm going to continue to pray about it because that would be the best way, but it doesn't always work.
Thanks
Tammy | Ok, first what is your state;s position on this? If it's legal, go for it. If it's not, it could be a simple misdemeanor, or as in Oregon it's a felony.
Second, is your phone set up for a headset? If so it'll have a 2.5 or 3.5 mm female jack where you plug it in. Find the size of the female jack. Find the size of the microphone jack on the recorder. ANY recorder that can do external mics will work. If the jack port is the same size as the male jack for a walkman headset, it's 3.5 mm. Cell phones use 2.5 mm. Generally speaking speaker phones are ideal.
Now, go to Radio Shack. Buy a cord with double male pigtails. This allows you to go from the headset plug to the mic jack on the recorder. When recording have the volume turned up high. Experiment though, sometimes the local phone company has something in their system that when you record on their lines it'll give feedback ruining the recording and alerting the other party.
Also get adapters. A 2.5 mm to 3.5 mm, and a 3.5 mm to 2.5 mm. Total cost is maybe $12-15.
With cell phones it's more complicated. The gear is a lot more expensive.
I suggest that whenever you are recording without someone's consent, use digital. Non-digital recorders emit a small electro-magnetic pulse, and can be detected. Digital recorders don't have this.
How do I know this?
I used to be a reporter some years back....  | 
24-04-2008, 03:44 PM
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| | Thanks Cactus. I will have to print this out and go check to see if I have these jacks. If so I will buy the equipment.
Even if it's illegal I'm not taking her to court, so it would just provide proof to the doctor and her supervisor of how she treats me.
inso, I am going to follow procedures (and followed them this past time) and have set up extra measures. However, if I have to speak to her about something I don't appreciate her calling me a liar and that needs to be dealt with if she does it again.
Desert, I can't fire my doctor because my insurance is crap and I only have one other clinic I can go to. I had already been to that clinic and the doc wanted to give me electric shock treatment for my constant suicide thoughts, and I wouldn't do it so he told me we had come to an impasse.
Thank God I didn't have electric shock treatment and switched doctors because I no longer have thoughts of suicide.
Thanks for the input everyone
Tammy | 
26-04-2008, 12:36 AM
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| | Tammy, you do need to know the laws. Court is one concern, but they can also file criminal charges against you if they are applicable. I'll hunt up a list of the states and their legal status.
c | 
26-04-2008, 12:51 AM
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| | Ok, I did a quickie and found this- Is consent of all parties required?
In California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington state, YES.
Federal law/federal lands, NO. Consent of all parties is not required in these states- Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, D.C., Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming.
In all cases I urge caution. The laws could have changed since I was a reporter last (2001). | 
26-04-2008, 02:31 AM
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| | It's so frustrating when you're telling the truth and people accuse you of lying. I hate that. Good for you for standing up for yourself. I hope things get better for you! | 
26-04-2008, 03:54 AM
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