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| | Notices | Welcome to PTSD Forum. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) is a life threatening, debilitating disorder that can break down a sufferer’s body through anxiety and stress. Further it poses a significant suicide risk resulting from the brains neurological imbalance and chemical depression. Sufferers often live in denial, thus this community is aimed at helping PTSD sufferers help themselves through others experiences, guidance and education. We are here for the sufferer, spouse and families surrounding PTSD. Spouses and family are too often forgotten in this equation, and often they receive all the worst that PTSD has to offer. If you're involved in any way with PTSD, get registered and help yourself now. Non-active members will eventually be deleted. If you are not a sufferer, carer or someone within the mental health industry, and active, then there is little reason for you to be a member of this forum. Non-active members with zero posts are deleted periodically during the year. |  | | 
04-06-2007, 04:39 AM
| | | | Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 658
| | I'll Hold You With My Words I do not know you outside of here,
And yet I know you very well,
I cannot hold you in my arms,
I cannot take your pain away,
Or make it all be okay.
The only thing that I can give,
Is to hold you with my words,
And hope that something that is said,
Will bring a smile,or piss you off,
And interupt your endless thoughts,
To pull you from your sadness,
And let you know you are not alone.
Last edited by zoe; 04-06-2007 at 04:42 AM.
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04-06-2007, 11:41 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ohio...USA
Posts: 488
| | [b]The Crumbling of Me[b]
Never a bridesmaid
Once a bride
Twenty yers now single
Facing more and more
A decimated world
Grief socks me deep
In my gut
I didn't fly the plane with hundreds dead
I singly survived
So therefore
The whole of blame
Was thrown upon me
As if I never
Helped a soul
Or had no courage
Or turned aside
These once-friends
It's pouring outside my van
I sob in the fur
Of my soft bunny
I clench him close
Try to believe
The softness of him
Will be the glue
To hold my face
Up to all outside
Who would give no hand to me
Screaming
No light will show
This hanging
Of myself | 
04-06-2007, 12:27 PM
| | | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Rockies
Posts: 32
| | copyright issues? Does this mean I have lost the ownership and right to publish it elsewhere?
Nora in Colorado Cry of a whippoorwhill Last edited by becvan : Yesterday at 08:26 PM. Reason: Removed Copyright. If it's posted on the forum it belongs to the forum.
Last edited by anthony; 11-06-2007 at 11:12 PM.
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05-06-2007, 05:04 PM
| | | | Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 658
| | Rare Moments Sometimes I feel so little,
At times I feel my age,
Other times I'm old,
But the times I've felt the best,
Were not age based at all,
but simply times I felt comfortable,
with who I was inside. | 
11-06-2007, 11:22 PM
|  | Administrative Editor PTSD | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 7,443
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Originally Posted by responsiblek9 Does this mean I have lost the ownership and right to publish it elsewhere?
Nora in Colorado | I own the copyright off this forum, which means you cannot post something and then post too it, copyright xxx, as you do not own it here, I do. Everything posted here is "owned" by the person posting it, however; as part of the copyright I hold the right to the content once posted, though that does not mean I hold the "copyright" exclusively, simply I hold the copyright upon this forum, so when you post it here, I then own it, not you.
This removes the legality of people believing they have the right to demand their content be removed, as I legally own the content and can do as I wish with it under the legal agreement I had constructed for this exact issue, and others.
If you DO NOT own the copyright, ie. a news article, article in general, news comment, etc etc, then you must "cite" the reference of the source as the copyright belongs to that person / company / website, not me. If a website contacted me about a news story that was published here and cited to themselves as the author, whilst I hold the copyright here, they hold the original copyright to that publish, which means I DO have to remove the content. This is acceptable for news, etc. This is not acceptable for people to post here and attempt to make their posts copyright, hence the legal agreement entered into when you register, and those legalities have also been covered per Australian law for those that where existing members to read the changes and by continued use accept those changes.
Simply, you CANNOT attach any type of copyright notice to any content here, as I own the copyright already.
Vbulletin, the makers of this forum software, own the copyright to this software, being I have paid to use this software upon this website only, and cannot reproduce or tamper with the software outside of their licensing arrangements.
VBSEO own the copyright to some other proprietary software that I use in conjuntion with the forum to speedup the forum, make it lighter and faster to users, more accessible to search engines, etc etc.
I cannot just go and reproduce information posted here outside of this forum, ie. take a persons post, public or private, and just go adding it into another website, nor can any other person do the same. The information posted here under the legal copyright agreement is for ptsdforum.org only, thus remains the legal property of ptsdforum.org and the anthonyparsons.com network, being my registered network. What this primarily does for me though as the owner of this forum, is allows me to negate a members request to remove their posted content, because once posted I then own that content. They may reproduce "their" posted content only upon another website themselves, but no other person may, nor may the poster of said content copy anothers reply, or even have their permission to copy the content, as jointed within a thread or topical conversation, I own the copyright to stop any person or group of people reproducing said content as a structured conversation.
That may confuse you, or help you... not sure.
Last edited by anthony; 11-06-2007 at 11:26 PM.
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12-06-2007, 09:36 AM
| | | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: United States
Posts: 105
| | Hi anthony,
I think I understand what you are saying. I think you're saying that:
If I put something a poem or other written thing on your website, ptsdforum.org, then I am giving you the right to keep my poem on your website for the [unknown number of days or years] that this website exists.
That way, if I put a poem on the site, I am agreeing that you can always show my poem on your site, and I have agreed that I can't ask you to remove the poem.
But my putting my poem on your site: doesn't mean that- I don't own the poem anymore, and I can use my poem on other websites or in other [ books or media].
Is that what you meant in your post?
I am ok with this idea if this the idea that you meant. Engish can be confusing. English is so messed up. : )
Thank You,
Rob | 
12-06-2007, 11:46 AM
|  | Administrative Editor PTSD | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 7,443
| | Bingo Rob... exactly it mate. Well said. | 
13-06-2007, 05:03 PM
| | | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: United States
Posts: 105
| | Thanks, anthony.
Thank You also for clarifying the copyright rules of the site.
Legal rules made by internet lawyers are such a pest. :biggrin: :biggrin: . Heh Heh.
Have a Good Day,
Rob | 
16-06-2007, 09:05 PM
| | | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jasper, Missouri USA
Posts: 576
| | Little Things
Golden glitter lights her wings, that tiny pixy as she sings.
She whispers sweetness in the ear of a graceful heard of deer.
They leap aloft the wired fence rows one big buck and several dows.
Toward the rising of the soft pink sun their wistful grazing is almost done.
Emerald grass glissining wet with dew moistens their mouths as they chew.
Perched with her breast toward the sweet spring wind,
lady robin sits her eggs in a mighty oaks bend.
Her smooth brown feathers hide her from sight,
until her bold mate returns from his flight.
Its his time to sit while his crimson chest’s flowing.
He sings of new life while the soft breeze is blowing.
She’ll go for some food or some twigs for the nesting,
as he sits with the eggs in watchful resting.
It landed upon a powdery purple pansy buzzing about in a bumbling frenzy.
Its black and golden yellow stripes dipping deep then coming forth afoot with sweetness.
Back to the hive with an ardent dive it flew about its business.
Then there came a slimy sort protruding from the ground.
It wiggled wearily wondering about without a single sound.
Its pink segmented body blindly blithering in simple silent nonsense to return just where it was found.
Marilyn | 
16-06-2007, 09:21 PM
| | | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jasper, Missouri USA
Posts: 576
| | Neurotic Consent
A fellow from the garden shop stopped by to spray my flower pots.
He was strong and well formed from head to toe.
His eyes glowed with power like propriety’s foe.
I stood by his shoulder as he held the hose,
That gently sprayed my garden’s prize rose.
A breeze blew by and fondled my skirt as I almost fell down in the moistened dirt.
Embarrassed I turned quickly to go inside,
Ironically I tripped causing both him and I to collide.
Landing on the muddy ground his muscular arms had me tightly bound.
He softly kissed my quivering lips and rubbed my maternally blossoming hips.
I wanted to scream because I knew it was wrong but instead I began whispering the words of a song.
The song had a tender and compliant beat that made me forget his body’s heat.
I put the incident out of my mind and left my guilt to follow behind.
Marilyn
Last edited by Marilyn_S; 16-06-2007 at 09:21 PM.
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